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Fram white Pro series versus orange Extraguard? #4712411
03/31/18 01:47 PM
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larrymoencurly Offline OP
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Are the white Fram Pro filters (cheapest ones) the same as their orange Extraguard filters?

The box for the orange Extraguard PH7317 and the website say 95% filration.

The box for the white Pro FP7317 says 93% filtration, but the website says 99%.

Re: Fram white Pro series versus orange Extraguard? [Re: larrymoencurly] #4712456
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Ask car51... Im sure hes gutted them here on the board before. His weekend jaunts to help friends and family put Jiffy Lube to shame, plus he C&Ps all the filters here on the board!

Re: Fram white Pro series versus orange Extraguard? [Re: larrymoencurly] #4712486
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New production PH have silicone ADBV, not sure about FP... Send Jay an e-mail and ask him, he will answer you pretty quick.


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Re: Fram white Pro series versus orange Extraguard? [Re: larrymoencurly] #4712501
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According to pics of cut apart ones, it's just paint color and no black grippy stuff.

Someone jog my memory,
but I though the orange silicone ADBV actually appeared in the white "Pro series",
and then just recent;y appeared in the "Orange Can"??


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Re: Fram white Pro series versus orange Extraguard? [Re: larrymoencurly] #4712509
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"The evidence demands a verdict".
(Re:VOA)"it's nearly impossible to actually know the particular additives that are in there at what concentrations."
Re: Fram white Pro series versus orange Extraguard? [Re: larrymoencurly] #4712600
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I believe they are e-core


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Re: Fram white Pro series versus orange Extraguard? [Re: larrymoencurly] #4712603
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Originally Posted By: larrymoencurly
Are the white Fram Pro filters (cheapest ones) the same as their orange Extraguard filters?

The box for the orange Extraguard PH7317 and the website say 95% filration.

The box for the white Pro FP7317 says 93% filtration, but the website says 99%.



My feeling is that filter may have been upgraded but always believe the lower number on the box.


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Re: Fram white Pro series versus orange Extraguard? [Re: larrymoencurly] #4712604
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White Fram Pro oil filters manufactured during the Frampion period were ecores in most model numbers. After the Frampion divorce, Fram Pro filters are the same as the orange cans, I have no idea if current Fram Pro filters now have silicone ADBV or if they stayed nitrile.

My take is if the box says 93% efficiency it's a Frampion period product, probably ecore.

Last edited by Nyogtha; 03/31/18 06:31 PM.

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Re: Fram white Pro series versus orange Extraguard? [Re: Linctex] #4712928
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Re: Fram white Pro series versus orange Extraguard? [Re: larrymoencurly] #4715420
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I phoned Fram and was told the media type for any Fram Pro depended on the exact part number, but for FP7317 they said the media was ExtraGuard, just like the media in orange Frams. Actually I chose Fram Pro because of the can color, so I can make out the date and mileage I write on it.

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Re: Fram white Pro series versus orange Extraguard? [Re: larrymoencurly] #4715441
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Humm I have a box of 10 XG9688 and haven't used any. Bought as a replacement of my Hyundai OEMs but still have a dozen of the Hyundai OEMs to go. Doing 5k OCIs.
I keep hearing about the Hyundai fakes so I check and weigh to make sure I received OEMs.
If Fram is going down, I'm tempt to cut a new XG and take a good peek when I get a bored moment.


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