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Colt Canada (Diemaco) #4693116
03/13/18 05:28 AM
03/13/18 05:28 AM
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This question is for my Canadian friends up North.
Of you that are AR-15 owners, how many of you own one of these 2 AR-15's? I consider these to be my HOLY GRAIL AR-15's to own. I wish we could buy these here in the states. IMO, this is what a REAL Colt AR should be!

https://www.all4shooters.com/en/Shooting...tomatic-rifles/


Re: Colt Canada (Diemaco) [Re: BlueOvalFitter] #4693140
03/13/18 06:55 AM
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I currently own AR-15 rifles from the following companies: Colt, (2), Bushmaster (5), LWRC (2), Rock River Arms, (1), and DPMS, (1). I can honestly say there really isn't that much difference in any of them from a shooting and operational standpoint. They all run and shoot fine. Today there is so much arguing on gun forums over brand loyalty, it has gotten to the point of complete ridiculousness.

I have never had any of my AR-15 rifles fail due to parts breakage. And even if any of them were to, I have plenty of spare bolts, bolt carrier groups, extractors, charging handles, firing pins, cam pins, retaining pins, etc., that any of them would be back up and running in minutes if anything should fail.

It has gotten to the point that for 99.99% of civilian shooters, worrying about brand loyalty when choosing an AR-15 rifle is all but a complete waste of time. Search for the best deal you can find, on the rifle you yourself like the most, judging by the features it has. Then buy it, shoot it, and enjoy it. And don't worry about it when someone tells you, "what you should have bought".

Re: Colt Canada (Diemaco) [Re: BlueOvalFitter] #4693145
03/13/18 07:04 AM
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I'm not seeing anything special about those guns.


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Re: Colt Canada (Diemaco) [Re: billt460] #4693147
03/13/18 07:11 AM
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Originally Posted By: billt460
I currently own AR-15 rifles from the following companies: Colt, (2), Bushmaster (5), LWRC (2), Rock River Arms, (1), and DPMS, (1). I can honestly say there really isn't that much difference in any of them from a shooting and operational standpoint. They all run and shoot fine. Today there is so much arguing on gun forums over brand loyalty, it has gotten to the point of complete ridiculousness.

I have never had any of my AR-15 rifles fail due to parts breakage. And even if any of them were to, I have plenty of spare bolts, bolt carrier groups, extractors, charging handles, firing pins, cam pins, retaining pins, etc., that any of them would be back up and running in minutes if anything should fail.

It has gotten to the point that for 99.99% of civilian shooters, worrying about brand loyalty when choosing an AR-15 rifle is all but a complete waste of time. Search for the best deal you can find, on the rifle you yourself like the most, judging by the features it has. Then buy it, shoot it, and enjoy it. And don't worry about it when someone tells you, "what you should have bought".

I have to agree with you. But, there are a few extra items on the Diemaco rifle that the American made Colt AR doesn't have. That, and it's Canadian made. To me, as an AR collector, those added touches help. Oh, don't get me wrong now. I do shoot ALL of my AR's. And, I don't treat them like safe queens.
I made a comment to someone about how I buy certain parts for different reasons and they told me I shouldn't do that. I told him that if he wants to pay for my AR's then he can tell me how to do something his way. Until then, I will do as I WANT TO!

Re: Colt Canada (Diemaco) [Re: hatt] #4693155
03/13/18 07:35 AM
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Originally Posted By: hatt
I'm not seeing anything special about those guns.

That's one good thing about living in the USA, being able to voice your opinion. HOOAH!
BTW, one thing that I see special about them is an ambidextrous safety.

Re: Colt Canada (Diemaco) [Re: BlueOvalFitter] #4693176
03/13/18 08:07 AM
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Originally Posted By: BlueOvalFitter
..... I made a comment to someone about how I buy certain parts for different reasons and they told me I shouldn't do that. I told him that if he wants to pay for my AR's then he can tell me how to do something his way. Until then, I will do as I WANT TO!


That is the proper attitude to have when AR-15 shopping. You wouldn't let others select your next new car. So why would you do the same with your next AR-15?

Re: Colt Canada (Diemaco) [Re: BlueOvalFitter] #4693195
03/13/18 08:33 AM
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I'm no AR expert but a Daniel Defense M4 V7 Pro 18" can be had for a few hundred dollars more up here.


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Re: Colt Canada (Diemaco) [Re: BlueOvalFitter] #4693297
03/13/18 10:34 AM
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What feature of this rifle makes it a holy grail acquisition for you (something made in Canada has no added appeal for me)?

Re: Colt Canada (Diemaco) [Re: BlueOvalFitter] #4693301
03/13/18 10:45 AM
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Glad you’re interested in something made in Canada. I believe they are a civilian version of the C-7 issued to the Canadian Armed Forces. Also, I believe Colt bought Diemaco in 2005.


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Re: Colt Canada (Diemaco) [Re: funkymonkey1111] #4693303
03/13/18 10:46 AM
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Originally Posted By: funkymonkey1111
What feature of this rifle makes it a holy grail acquisition for you (something made in Canada has no added appeal for me)?


On the contrary, I prefer firearms or firearms related products made in the States.


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Re: Colt Canada (Diemaco) [Re: Snagglefoot] #4693420
03/13/18 12:40 PM
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Originally Posted By: Snagglefoot
Glad you’re interested in something made in Canada. I believe they are a civilian version of the C-7 issued to the Canadian Armed Forces. Also, I believe Colt bought Diemaco in 2005.





I want a diemaco badly but up until this point they only had those goofy monolithic receiver variants for like $2000 CDN.

They are super expensive, but they have a certain mystique. It is strange that one of the coolest versions of a rifle so synonymous with the usa is made in canada. That's what you get for having all the good hockey teams, suckers!


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Re: Colt Canada (Diemaco) [Re: BlueOvalFitter] #4693757
03/13/18 06:22 PM
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Still going. So far so good.


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Re: Colt Canada (Diemaco) [Re: Snagglefoot] #4693852
03/13/18 07:45 PM
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These were sold in Pa. a few years ago.


Re: Colt Canada (Diemaco) [Re: BlueOvalFitter] #4694112
03/13/18 11:24 PM
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Colt Canada guns, when they are found in the states, are holy grail items. I'm talking $1000 for a lower, and perhaps $2000 for the rifle, or more.

Due to import laws, they were only ever sold to LEO agencies, with perhaps a handful falling through the cracks into civilian hands.

AND they are considered cream of the crop in quality by some. The Colt Canada barrels are hammer forged. The American Colt barrels are not hammer forged.

Colt America slaps stuff together with barely trained monkeys. Colt Canada has many more quality control processes and better fit and finish.

I'd love to have one in my collection, but I don't want to pay full retail for one.


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Re: Colt Canada (Diemaco) [Re: bubbatime] #4694155
03/14/18 01:11 AM
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Originally Posted By: bubbatime
Colt Canada guns, when they are found in the states, are holy grail items. I'm talking $1000 for a lower, and perhaps $2000 for the rifle, or more.

Due to import laws, they were only ever sold to LEO agencies, with perhaps a handful falling through the cracks into civilian hands.

AND they are considered cream of the crop in quality by some. The Colt Canada barrels are hammer forged. The American Colt barrels are not hammer forged.

Colt America slaps stuff together with barely trained monkeys. Colt Canada has many more quality control processes and better fit and finish.

I'd love to have one in my collection, but I don't want to pay full retail for one.

Thank you BT. At least there is someone else on this forum that knows a quality AR when they see one. thumbsup

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