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No more GDI in my fleet #4691531
03/11/18 12:54 PM
03/11/18 12:54 PM
Joined: Nov 2003
Posts: 1,205
Middle of Iowa
DriveHard Offline OP
DriveHard  Offline OP
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Posts: 1,205
Middle of Iowa
Well, we just traded in my wife's 2013 MB ML350 for a 2017 Jeep Renegade Trailhawk. I'm not sure how many followed all the issues I have had with the injection system and injectors on that car, but I am overjoyed to be done with it. About 3 or 4 weeks ago we pulled up to a bicycle shop and a nicely tricked out Renegade was sitting out front. My Bride who rarely says boo about anything she "wants" quietly blurted out "oh, I want one of those", now truly this is unheard of for her...so we went on inside. We tried on several bikes for each of us, and had a generally good time chatting with the staff. On the way out, there were racks and racks of bikes out front which quickly drew my attention (as that is what we were shopping for that day), but her eyes went right to the Renegade, and again she mentioned how much she liked the car. Now, with all the trouble we have been having wit the Benz, and how little I liked it...I was right on board. I first started shopping for a lightly used model, and in my searching quickly realized one could have a brand new 2017 for the same price as used...like, plugging in the values, I could get it for the same price as the trade in value. So, we found a nicely loaded Trailhawk, and I could not be more happy to be back to all MPI in my fleet. :-)


Smile, it increases your face value
2013 Fiat 500 Abarth mod heavy (my DD)
2018 Alfa Romeo Stelvio TI Sport (wife's)
2011 Silverado Crew Cab LT 6.2L/6spd (tow pig)
2007 Nissan Xterra (trail toy)
Re: No more GDI in my fleet [Re: DriveHard] #4691536
03/11/18 01:00 PM
03/11/18 01:00 PM
Joined: May 2010
Posts: 9,456
out there
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spasm3  Online Content
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Posts: 9,456
out there
We test drove a trailhawk and i really liked it. My wife thought it a bit too small so we went with the cx-5, as she would be the primary driver.

It drove well, had good power. I still may consider one in the future!


13 elantra 72k 5w30 QSUD
03 chevy avalanche 80k synpwr 5w30
17 mazda cx-5 7300 miles m1 0w30
Re: No more GDI in my fleet [Re: DriveHard] #4691547
03/11/18 01:11 PM
03/11/18 01:11 PM
Joined: Jul 2012
Posts: 2,262
Nashville, TN via Memphis
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Nashville, TN via Memphis
Good for you. I bought a 2016 WRX almost 2 years ago. It's DI-only. I'll never buy another DI-only vehicle. Haven't had any trouble with the WRX (at least, not related to the intake tract), but I like keeping vehicles until the wheels fall off. And I would hate having to pay hundreds of dollars every few years to have the intake tract cleaned.

Toyota, Ford and others who have both MPI & DI seem to have it figured out (though time will be the judge of that).

What's weird about the WRX having DI-only is that the Subaru BRZ/Scion FRS/Toyota 86 have Toyota's version of the FI system, which includes MPI. So no worries about buildup in the intake tracts of that car. It's a very similar engine to that of the WRX (it's NA instead of turbo), so I can only assume it was pride on Subaru's part not to use the Toyota GDI/MPI setup as used on the 86.


16 WRX - PPPP
07 Tacoma V6 - M1 EP 5W-30, Fram Ultra, 10K OCIs, 198K
07 Yamaha R1 - Rotella T6 5W-40, Bosch 3300
07 Yamaha YZ-250, Klotz, Rotella

Re: No more GDI in my fleet [Re: DriveHard] #4691552
03/11/18 01:21 PM
03/11/18 01:21 PM
Joined: Sep 2004
Posts: 21,921
Orlando, FL
Mr Nice Offline
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Orlando, FL
It's good that you got rid of that money pit Benz for a Jeep.

Re: No more GDI in my fleet [Re: DriveHard] #4691572
03/11/18 01:35 PM
03/11/18 01:35 PM
Joined: Jul 2002
Posts: 4,543
KY
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Posts: 4,543
KY
My Mazdaspeed had 158k on it when I flipped it for the 2 Series. Performance and fuel economy were excellent over the entire time I owned it. No issues with my 2er at 40K or the Clubman at 109k either. I've never touched the valves, injectors, or pumps on any of them.
I really like the Renegade Trailhawk, but I'm reluctant to buy any new Jeep vehicle as the CDJ dealers in my neck of the woods have a strict policy against hiring techs with opposable thumbs.


Mine:
2014 M235i
2009 Cooper Clubman
1999 Wrangler Sahara
1995 318ti Club Sport

Wife's:
2015 X1 xDrive28i


Son's
2009 328i

Buy what makes you smile...
Re: No more GDI in my fleet [Re: Mr Nice] #4691574
03/11/18 01:36 PM
03/11/18 01:36 PM
Joined: Jan 2006
Posts: 1,060
Ruidoso, NM USA
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Ruidoso, NM USA
Originally Posted By: Mr Nice
It's good that you got rid of that money pit Benz for a Jeep.


Does that sound right when you read what you typed? "For a JEEP"? A FIAT built Jeep.

The money pit saga continues!


2009 Honda CR-V
2011 BMW R1200R
2005 Kaw Ninja 250
1994 Jeep Wrangler 2.5L
2016 Chevy SS Sport Sedan
Re: No more GDI in my fleet [Re: DriveHard] #4691615
03/11/18 02:23 PM
03/11/18 02:23 PM
Joined: Oct 2011
Posts: 5,091
USA
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USA
Renegade is really a FIAT 500X.

Re: No more GDI in my fleet [Re: DriveHard] #4691691
03/11/18 03:40 PM
03/11/18 03:40 PM
Joined: Nov 2005
Posts: 995
Rockwall, Texas
Old Mustang Guy Offline
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Posts: 995
Rockwall, Texas
My wife just got a new Toyota Highlander. Would that be the above mentioned D.I. Plus port injection?

Re: No more GDI in my fleet [Re: DriveHard] #4691780
03/11/18 05:34 PM
03/11/18 05:34 PM
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Posts: 3,445
Massachusetts
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Massachusetts
I just can't get over the taillights. Whenever I see them I get the urge to grab a Phillips screwdriver and attempt to unscrew them...


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Re: No more GDI in my fleet [Re: DriveHard] #4691781
03/11/18 05:34 PM
03/11/18 05:34 PM
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Posts: 4,032
Utah
CKN Online content
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Utah
Yep FIAT built anything is far more reliable...........


Sure!

Re: No more GDI in my fleet [Re: deven] #4691794
03/11/18 05:48 PM
03/11/18 05:48 PM
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Posts: 36,594
Great Lakes
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Great Lakes
Originally Posted By: deven
I just can't get over the taillights. Whenever I see them I get the urge to grab a Phillips screwdriver and attempt to unscrew them...

LOL! Now that you mentioned it, I will not be able to get this image out of my head. smile


'02 530i (Edge 0W-40)
'15 Q5 3.0T (Edge 5W-40)
'18 Charger SRT (PUP 0W-40 SRT)
Re: No more GDI in my fleet [Re: Quattro Pete] #4691917
03/11/18 08:02 PM
03/11/18 08:02 PM
Joined: Oct 2012
Posts: 2,473
Staten Island, NY
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Staten Island, NY
Originally Posted By: Quattro Pete
Originally Posted By: deven
I just can't get over the taillights. Whenever I see them I get the urge to grab a Phillips screwdriver and attempt to unscrew them...

LOL! Now that you mentioned it, I will not be able to get this image out of my head. smile


My left eye twitches when I see over use of the squircle design philosophy

Looking at you Fiat!

Taillights like a cartoon character that's dead


'06 Toyota Camry SE V6 3MZ-FE 100k
'01 Mercury Villager Estate VG33E 52k
'06 Ford Taurus SE Vulcan 60k
'13 Chrysler 300 3.6 Pentastar 230k
Re: No more GDI in my fleet [Re: CKN] #4691975
03/11/18 09:11 PM
03/11/18 09:11 PM
Joined: Nov 2008
Posts: 9,277
Phoenix
dishdude Offline
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Phoenix
Originally Posted By: CKN
Yep FIAT built anything is far more reliable...........


Sure!


You're getting the hang of this BITOG thing. Soon you'll be singing the praises of the Crown Vic and Michelin tires!

OP - Congrats on the new ride. My FCAs have served me well.


2018 Challenger SRT 392 PUP 0w-40 Wix 57899XP
2018 GTI
Re: No more GDI in my fleet [Re: DriveHard] #4691978
03/11/18 09:20 PM
03/11/18 09:20 PM
Joined: Jun 2005
Posts: 772
Danville, Indiana
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Posts: 772
Danville, Indiana
OP, nothing wrong with the Renegade. Most owners seem very happy with them. My daughter is nutty over them and wants one badly. She things they look great. I think they look quirky, but they drive nicely and the interior is really good.

Enjoy that ride! I'll bet you have years of trouble free use from it.


18 Jeep JLUR Wrangler 3.6 13k
15 Ford Transit 105k, Reman 3.5 @85k
08 Jeep Wrangler 3.8 127k
01 Ford F150 Crew 5.4 89k
99 Mercedes E430 Sport 90k
Re: No more GDI in my fleet [Re: DriveHard] #4692169
03/12/18 06:30 AM
03/12/18 06:30 AM
Joined: Nov 2003
Posts: 1,205
Middle of Iowa
DriveHard Offline OP
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Posts: 1,205
Middle of Iowa
Thank you for all the well wishes!

I have to admit, I was one of the last people that ever thought I would buy a Chrysler/Fiat product. I did a little research and came to understand that the engine was actually a joint development project under the Global Engine Alliance between Chrysler, Mitsubishi, and Hyundai. I also learned the transmission is a ZF unit found in many Hondas and Acuras. That was enough to at least encourage me to take a test drive. It rides tight and well. Wind noise is decent for a box, and interior space is great for a car this small. It looks zippy, and my wife loves it (that matters most). So far she is averaging just over 25 mpg on regular unleaded...were she used to average 17-18 on premium in the Benz. I would guess over the next several years we will be gobs of money ahead with the Jeep vs. staying with the Benz. I will update later after we spend some more time with it. So far, very happy with the purchase.


Smile, it increases your face value
2013 Fiat 500 Abarth mod heavy (my DD)
2018 Alfa Romeo Stelvio TI Sport (wife's)
2011 Silverado Crew Cab LT 6.2L/6spd (tow pig)
2007 Nissan Xterra (trail toy)
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