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Motorcraft fl1a cut open 3yrs oci #4673489
02/21/18 04:05 PM
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First c&p this is off my brothers mazda b4000, happens to be the same engine as mine in the sig. I changed the oil for him back in Feb 2015 when he bought the truck, and It had 169,370 miles then, (title)... I put in Castrol gtx hm syn.blend 5w30 on that change Then ...Now; 175,169 miles and 3 yr's later I put in valvoline maxlife full syn 10w30, and another fl1a filter...plus replaced an air filter, I'll post pic's of the air filter another time frown...Side note he doesn't care too much about this truck he bought it cheap,$500.00 it sit's more than anything..keeps it for anyone who need's a pickup for moving stuff ect (family)..., I was the only one willing to do and give it a free oil change, anyway here are some pic's, my cell phone doesn't take the greatest pics... No tear', filter could go another who know's how long ,filter media feels strong, oil should have been changed 2 yr's ago IMHO..









I don't know if this is a rubber or synthetic adbv.





The filter media felt strong, I would say this filter could go a lot longer...

Some thin sludge at the bottom of the filter...

Last edited by rollinpete; 02/21/18 04:06 PM.

Pete.
97 Ford Expl.Sport 4.0 ohv 4wd 5spddrive185k miles
Last Change;
50/50 QSUD, QSHM. 5w30
Fram XG8A, Fram CA8141

Currently under the influence of oil shocked2

Re: Motorcraft fl1a cut open 3yrs oci [Re: rollinpete] #4673496
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Originally Posted By: rollinpete
... filter could go another who know's how long ,filter media feels strong, oil should have been changed 2 yr's ago IMHO.


Based on the amount of crud in the bottom of the filter I'd say it shouldn't go any further. There has to be a good amount of crud in the media too. That engine isn't very clean inside or the use was super severe for that much crud in 6K miles. Good C&P - thanks.

Re: Motorcraft fl1a cut open 3yrs oci [Re: rollinpete] #4673511
02/21/18 04:28 PM
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I think that filter worked over time! It's good to see a good ole MC filter that can stand up to anything thrown at it. Thanks for the C&P.
BTW, did a fire breathing beaver cut that filter open? shrug

Re: Motorcraft fl1a cut open 3yrs oci [Re: BlueOvalFitter] #4673526
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Feb 2015....isn't that before the Tearolater era arrived? Not so sure about trying that today. I use all my generic MC's for no more than 3K-4K miles.


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1999 Camaro SS M6 /19K /Mobil 1 0w40 /Fram UG /GM MTL-ATF
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Re: Motorcraft fl1a cut open 3yrs oci [Re: BlueOvalFitter] #4673529
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Originally Posted By: BlueOvalFitter
I think that filter worked over time! It's good to see a good ole MC filter that can stand up to anything thrown at it. Thanks for the C&P.
BTW, did a fire breathing beaver cut that filter open? shrug


yup some sheet metal snips


Pete.
97 Ford Expl.Sport 4.0 ohv 4wd 5spddrive185k miles
Last Change;
50/50 QSUD, QSHM. 5w30
Fram XG8A, Fram CA8141

Currently under the influence of oil shocked2

Re: Motorcraft fl1a cut open 3yrs oci [Re: 69GTX] #4673533
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Originally Posted By: 69GTX
Feb 2015....isn't that before the Tearolater era arrived? Not so sure about trying that today. I use all my generic MC's for no more than 3K-4K miles.


I think the filter did a good job but after 3 yrs the oil was not so good,,, I
forgot to mention there was about a quart make up oil...


Pete.
97 Ford Expl.Sport 4.0 ohv 4wd 5spddrive185k miles
Last Change;
50/50 QSUD, QSHM. 5w30
Fram XG8A, Fram CA8141

Currently under the influence of oil shocked2

Re: Motorcraft fl1a cut open 3yrs oci [Re: rollinpete] #4673573
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Rollinpete: your pics are better than mine smile

Thank You for C&p also sir


09' Camry LE, 141,020 miles

PP 5w30 and TG 4967
Re: Motorcraft fl1a cut open 3yrs oci [Re: rollinpete] #4673584
02/21/18 05:28 PM
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Originally Posted By: 69GTX
Feb 2015....isn't that before the Tearolater era arrived? Not so sure about trying that today. I use all my generic MC's for no more than 3K-4K miles.

Nope, 2014 was when the tearing was really starting to get reported.
As far as I have seen, no Puro filter with the string around the media has had any tears, and the string has not been used in several years.

This filter was made Nov 7, 2014.


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Re: Motorcraft fl1a cut open 3yrs oci [Re: 53' Stude] #4673592
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Originally Posted By: car51
Rollinpete: your pics are better than mine smile

Thank You for C&p also sir


Thank your's are monumental Thanks...

Last edited by rollinpete; 02/21/18 05:55 PM.

Pete.
97 Ford Expl.Sport 4.0 ohv 4wd 5spddrive185k miles
Last Change;
50/50 QSUD, QSHM. 5w30
Fram XG8A, Fram CA8141

Currently under the influence of oil shocked2

Re: Motorcraft fl1a cut open 3yrs oci [Re: rollinpete] #4673686
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There FL-1A is a pretty BIG filter for such a small engine.

I doubt it has had to deal with any "excessive Delta P issues"


"The evidence demands a verdict".
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Re: Motorcraft fl1a cut open 3yrs oci [Re: rollinpete] #4673689
02/21/18 07:04 PM
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Looks like it worked fine. Did its job smile


Formerly in marine engineering. In an earlier life I owned my own petroleum tank truck, and hauled for the majors and independent's.
Re: Motorcraft fl1a cut open 3yrs oci [Re: 69GTX] #4673767
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Originally Posted By: 69GTX
Feb 2015....isn't that before the Tearolater era arrived? Not so sure about trying that today. I use all my generic MC's for no more than 3K-4K miles.


Think it was about this time of year in 2014 when the Tearolator issue popped up.

Re: Motorcraft fl1a cut open 3yrs oci [Re: rollinpete] #4674022
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Yuck! Filter held up well however.


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Re: Motorcraft fl1a cut open 3yrs oci [Re: rollinpete] #4674087
02/22/18 07:23 AM
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Question; The MC FL1A oil filter built today, does the bypass valve still have (4) inlet holes as this FL1A oil filter has, or are there now (8) inlet holes? When I had cut open older FL400S filters the bypass valve had (4) inlet holes. The newer FL400S has (8) bypass inlet holes.
shrug

Re: Motorcraft fl1a cut open 3yrs oci [Re: rollinpete] #4674089
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3 year OCI? Might want to put some Pine-Sol in that oil because it is starting to ferment wink


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