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Which is the better oil ? #4669026
02/17/18 08:10 PM
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CaptainFreon Offline OP
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2011 Ford E350. 5.4L 180K miles. Does not burn oil and runs good.
Fuel economy is not important. Longevity of engine is important.
Any other suggestions outside of this special?
Oil weight?
https://www.autozone.com/landing/page.jsp?name=oil-change-specials
TY

Last edited by CaptainFreon; 02/17/18 08:13 PM.
Re: Which is the better oil ? [Re: CaptainFreon] #4669035
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From the list, Mobile 1...My opinion anyways


2014 4x4 F350 Lariat Super Duty, 6.7 PS...15-40 Cenpeco
2016 Indian Chieftain 20-50 Mobil 1 V-twin Synthetic
Re: Which is the better oil ? [Re: CaptainFreon] #4669037
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But I did not see any that were diesel specific


2014 4x4 F350 Lariat Super Duty, 6.7 PS...15-40 Cenpeco
2016 Indian Chieftain 20-50 Mobil 1 V-twin Synthetic
Re: Which is the better oil ? [Re: Bugize] #4669040
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Originally Posted By: Bugize
From the list, Mobile 1...My opinion anyways


Sorry, no "e" in "Mobil".

From that page, I'd choose the Valvoline.


I'm a thickie; but a 20 has its place.

I use AMSOIL

Hers: 2008 Jeep Liberty 138k, SS 5w30/Amsoil

His: 2015 4Runner 41k, OE 5w20/Wix

Re: Which is the better oil ? [Re: CaptainFreon] #4669051
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Maxlife but truth be told I doubt any of these will make any significant difference in longevity of your engine over another.


2013 F150 XLT SCrew Eco-Boost
5w-30 Magnatec, Fram XG10575, Spectre Air Filter

2016 Ford Escape SE Eco-Boost 2.0L
5w-30 Edge EP, Fram XG3614




Re: Which is the better oil ? [Re: CaptainFreon] #4669060
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Originally Posted By: CaptainFreon
2011 Ford E350. 5.4L 180K miles. Does not burn oil and runs good.
Fuel economy is not important. Longevity of engine is important.
Any other suggestions outside of this special?
Oil weight?


I wouldn't run the recommend 5W-20.

Personally, I'd use a good 10W-30, 10W-40 or 5W-40 diesel oil.

Honestly, even 15W-40 is really good oil -
if it can keep modern diesels alive, your 5.4 won't be a problem.


"The evidence demands a verdict".
(Re:VOA)"it's nearly impossible to actually know the particular additives that are in there at what concentrations."
Re: Which is the better oil ? [Re: CaptainFreon] #4669098
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I like a high mileage full synthetic oil for an engine with 180k miles, but if no leaks, seepage or consumption, then regular Mobil 1 5W-30 would be my choice for winter or year round for 10k mile oil changes with the filter offered. 5W-30 Valvoline high mileage is a very good oil that I am currently running in a 2005 V6 Mustang, even though it has no leaks and has low miles. One guy who tests many oils for anti-wear noted recently that the current formulation of these 2 oils have very good anti-wear capability. I have no way of knowing exactly how he tests them, but these oils impressed him using his proprietary testing methods.

According to his methods, going thicker on the oil does not necessarily improve the wear resistance. I would leave diesel oils for diesels. I also would not use 5W-20 for longest engine life in your truck. 5W-30 is already one notch heavier than the 5W-20 recommended for your engine and if you have no consumption, then I would not go heavier than 5W-30 in Indiana.

Re: Which is the better oil ? [Re: JLTD] #4669115
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Originally Posted By: JLTD
[quote=Bugize]From the list, Mobile 1...My opinion anyways


Sorry, no "e" in "Mobil".

Knew that was coming.


2016 Honda Pilot EX-L with NAV.....Mobil 1 0w20 AFE and Ultra XG7317
Re: Which is the better oil ? [Re: CaptainFreon] #4669184
02/17/18 11:34 PM
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The 5.4L mod motor does not need an HDEO. The 5.4L engines can live a LONG time on any decent oil and grade.

Being that you're in IN, I'd use a 5w-20 or 5w-30.


The act of preventative maintenance, in and of itself, is FAR MORE important than brand/grade/base choices among lubes and filters.
- under maintaining something is akin to abuse/neglect; that can kill equipment by shortening the lifespan
- over maintaining something has never been proven to be anything but a waste of time and money
Re: Which is the better oil ? [Re: CaptainFreon] #4669195
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Pretty sure the Million Mile van, which had a 5.4L, used whatever 10w-40 he could find on clearance shrug

That engine isn't picky, generally. I found the lowest consumption with some of the Mobil products and ended up settling on M1 AFE 0w-30 in ours, but I'm sure it would have been fine on basically anything.


2018 RAM 1500 Big Horn EcoDiesel
2016 Grand Cherokee SRT
Re: Which is the better oil ? [Re: CaptainFreon] #4669201
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My pick in this case is Maxlife 5W-30.

There is no reason to use a heavier weight unless it has low oil pressure, oil burning, or leaks. My old truck has low oil pressure on the specified 10W-30, so that is why it gets 15W-40.


2017 Ford Fiesta 1.0T - Valvoline SynPower 5W-20, Motorcraft FL910S
1988 GMC K1500 4.3/700R4 - Supertech 15W-40, Fram TG3980
1986 Ford Ranger 2.0 - uhh
Re: Which is the better oil ? [Re: CaptainFreon] #4669203
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Valvoline synthetic high mileage is a great oil, and also Valvoline maxlife syn blend. I would use 5w-30, because the oil would never get hot enough to need a 40 weigh unless you are taking the van to a track day, which would be awesome. 0w-40s are excellent if you want to use synthetics and a 40 weight. But in the big scheme of things, any modern oils that meet the same specs will perform very similarly.

Re: Which is the better oil ? [Re: CaptainFreon] #4669252
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Nope, use castrol Magnatec and Castrol Edge HM


15' Civic 179k.0w20 Redline/Archoil9100,Eibach,Yokohama/Borla Exhaust/Tein Suspension/Fu7317/Redline Si-1
Right to work state proud. Non union household
Re: Which is the better oil ? [Re: bmwtechguy] #4669803
02/18/18 02:39 PM
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CaptainFreon Offline OP
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Thank you for your advice. I took it.

Re: Which is the better oil ? [Re: dnewton3] #4669808
02/18/18 02:42 PM
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CaptainFreon Offline OP
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This was really good advice. TY.
"The act of preventative maintenance, in and of itself, is FAR MORE important than brand/grade/base choices among lubes and filters.
- under maintaining something is akin to abuse/neglect; that can kill equipment by shortening the lifespan
- over maintaining something has never been proven to be anything but a waste of time and money "

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