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Need a "faster" camera for kids photos #4658404
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Currently using an iPhone 6 and a Fuji FinePix F200EXR for kids photos, they are not fast enough because kids won't listen when we tell them not to move.

So, without breaking the bank, I'm thinking about a used DSLR or micro 4/3 that has faster ISO on low light condition, better HDR photos would be nice too. Again, we are not looking for the top quality, but something affordable and a significant jump, even used model, would be good.

Plan to keep for about 5 years of light use, any suggestion?


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Re: Need a "faster" camera for kids photos [Re: PandaBear] #4658406
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change the setting to sports for a faster shutter speed.

Re: Need a "faster" camera for kids photos [Re: PandaBear] #4658409
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Just purchased a Sony A6000 mirrorless, not as bulky as a DSLR with same image quality.


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Re: Need a "faster" camera for kids photos [Re: PandaBear] #4658423
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You mention better high ISO performance, which either an SLR or micro 4/3 will delivery over a small sensor compact or phone. By "fast" do you also mean something that takes the picture very quickly upon pressing the shutter? And/or a camera with a "fast" wide aperture lens?

Any relatively recent SLR or micro 4/3 camera with a wide aperture fixed focal length lens will do all of the above. I have a Panasonic GX7 and use a 20mm f1.7 lens most of the time. It's a great focal length for people pictures and the combo works very well in dim light.

jeff

Re: Need a "faster" camera for kids photos [Re: PandaBear] #4658425
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A Panasonic Lumix would also be a good choice. Compact yet great pictures.


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Re: Need a "faster" camera for kids photos [Re: PandaBear] #4658457
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Fast as in, you can take low light photo (night time in a house) and kids moving around without blurry movement. I know you can make it faster in sport mode with grainy photo as a compromise, just wondering if there is an affordable way to it.


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Re: Need a "faster" camera for kids photos [Re: PandaBear] #4658466
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Nikon 3300 or 3400 with standard kit lens PLUS the awesome AF-S DX NIKKOR 35mm f/1.8G for kids, portraits, and low light.

(used to own exr200, great zoom, not so great lowlight) Nikon 3300 much lighter and compact.


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Re: Need a "faster" camera for kids photos [Re: PandaBear] #4658472
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Originally Posted By: PandaBear
Fast as in, you can take low light photo (night time in a house) and kids moving around without blurry movement.
The best way to freeze movement is to use an external flash and bounce it off ceiling or wall to provide a more even fill without it being harsh. You'll find lots of videos on youtube on how to do it, but it's pretty simple stuff.

Otherwise, if the lighting is poor and you don't use flash, you're going to have to jack up ISO so high that you may not be happy with the end result. Using a fast lens wide open is typically not a good idea, especially on a moving subject. Most lenses are not very sharp wide open, plus you'll be working with a very shallow depth of field, which means greater risk of misfocusing.

When I shoot my kid indoors, I usually set my shutter speed to 1/250s with remote flash, and keep ISO at 400 or less.


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Re: Need a "faster" camera for kids photos [Re: PandaBear] #4658480
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I'd look for a Nikon D300 with a 35 or 50mm f1.8 prime. Get the full frame lens, 1.8 is cheap in those focal lengths. This way when you upgrade to full frame in the future (I assume all will go this way at some point), your lenses will still be fine.

Re: Need a "faster" camera for kids photos [Re: PandaBear] #4658492
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Used to own a D300. It was a game changer. Highly recommend it. Was shooting a night time house fire 2 miles away. Nikon 18-200 F5.6 zoom lens. Tried with my D50 to get some pictures. That didn't work. Went home to get my new D300. I could see individual house timbers burning in the fire. It was like...what crazy magic has Nikon wrought with this camera.
Local paper ended up using my photos.

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Re: Need a "faster" camera for kids photos [Re: alarmguy] #4658498
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Originally Posted By: alarmguy
Nikon 3300 or 3400 with standard kit lens PLUS the awesome AF-S DX NIKKOR 35mm f/1.8G for kids, portraits, and low light.

(used to own exr200, great zoom, not so great lowlight) Nikon 3300 much lighter and compact.


The 35mm f/1.8 is great, but if you want to keep the price down, the standard lense is fine. You can get the refurb D3400 on Nikon's site for $370 with just the kit lense.

https://www.nikonusa.com/en/nikon-produc...efurbished.html

Re: Need a "faster" camera for kids photos [Re: PandaBear] #4658572
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Oh and if you want go cheaper still, there's the D3100. A couple generations older but only $229.

https://www.adorama.com/inkd3100krr.html

Re: Need a "faster" camera for kids photos [Re: PandaBear] #4658800
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I'm a big fan of buying used, but I think a 10 year old model (D300) is a bit of a stretch. I guess it's a good option if you're looking to get into "serious" cameras but only want to spend $100-150 on the body. OP, how much are you looking to spend?

OP also needs to consider if he/she is OK with an SLR sized camera & lenses or if they'd prefer smaller options. Mirrorless (micro 4/3 or Sony A series) will offer much smaller bodies in different formats (SLR-like, rangefinder, "point and shoot" without viewfinders at all) but with common lenses, mounts, interfaces, and features. Micro 4/3 in particular has a huge variety of options, and due to the smaller sensor also benefits from more compact lenses. My GX7 with the mentioned prime will fit in a jacket pocket.

camerasize.com allows you to compare bodies with lenses attached to get a sense for how they compare size-wise.

Re: Need a "faster" camera for kids photos [Re: Wolf359] #4658876
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Originally Posted By: Wolf359
You can get the refurb D3400 on Nikon's site for $370 with just the kit lense.

https://www.nikonusa.com/en/nikon-produc...efurbished.html


Pretty good deal on this entry level DSLR.


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Re: Need a "faster" camera for kids photos [Re: Quattro Pete] #4658887
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Originally Posted By: Quattro Pete
Originally Posted By: Wolf359
You can get the refurb D3400 on Nikon's site for $370 with just the kit lense.

https://www.nikonusa.com/en/nikon-produc...efurbished.html


Pretty good deal on this entry level DSLR.


And if you want to spend a little more, there's the D5500 for $450. I have an older D5300. This is somewhat tempting. Buydig is one of those NY/NJ camera shops, been around a long time and is legit. I've bought refurbs in the past and they've been good, usually very low shutter count.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/Nikon-D5500-DX-format-Digital-SLR-w-18-55mm-VR-II-Black-/322791409731

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