Pennzoil - SN Plus and 0W-16 Q&A

Click here to participate in the Pennzoil Q&A

Recent Topics
Easter Oil Sales - Australia
by B320i
03/20/18 02:10 AM
Full cases (12 ct) of ACDelco Oil Filters for $4-7
by Oneill5491
03/20/18 12:40 AM
Springfield XD MOD.2. vs XD(M)
by lukejo
03/19/18 10:55 PM
Slight Oil Overfill
by TheLawnRanger
03/19/18 10:18 PM
SuperTech White Can for $1?
by RonRonnster
03/19/18 10:16 PM
Pennzoil High Mileage Platinum 0w20 @ 63k Miles?
by David2431
03/19/18 09:39 PM
Duracell auto battery
by oilstudent24
03/19/18 09:20 PM
Low oil pressure code when following the olm
by ram_man
03/19/18 08:04 PM
by car51
03/19/18 08:03 PM
2015 Honda Pilot Idle Learn Procedure?
by Dave Sherman
03/19/18 07:54 PM
Wad cutter shooting
by CourierDriver
03/19/18 07:39 PM
Generator Maintenance
by doolah02
03/19/18 07:38 PM
When to tighten control arm bolts?
by dlundblad
03/19/18 07:25 PM
Super cool vid
by Jake777
03/19/18 07:19 PM
Meijer clearance of Puro Boss: 75% off
by fdcg27
03/19/18 07:10 PM
Trouble Pairing Phones On New Toyota Camry
by billt460
03/19/18 07:08 PM
Headlamps on a Poulan riding mower
by 92saturnsl2
03/19/18 06:40 PM
Diff fluid OCI in 2018 Chevy 2500HD Duramax
by oliver88
03/19/18 06:29 PM
How long do digital units stay in spec?
by Hemispheres
03/19/18 06:02 PM
Repair manual sources - 2015 Corolla
by NissanMaxima
03/19/18 06:01 PM
Newest Members
TroubledGnom, TwoMile, mbres2000, The_Griz, mcclusk
64507 Registered Users
Who's Online
14 registered (crainholio, B320i, DejaVue, Char Baby, 4 invisible), 793 Guests and 146 Spiders online.
Key: Admin, Global Mod, Mod
Forum Stats
64507 Members
68 Forums
280095 Topics
4675379 Posts

Max Online: 3590 @ 01/24/17 08:07 PM
Donate to BITOG
Topic Options
#4655431 - 02/04/18 12:15 AM 12 Nissan Titan high copper
60ampfuse Offline

Registered: 05/20/16
Posts: 25
Loc: Austin Tx
Hey guys, hereís my latest uoa from Blackstone. I havenít done anything different on this oil than the other samples. No towing or off-roading or anything else thatís hard on oil. Iím not sure why the copper went so high on this sample. The sample at 45K was Mobil super synthetic 5w30 and the samples at 49k and 53k were both PP 5w30. This sample with the increased copper was Napa Synthetic 5w30 which is supposed to be very close to Valvoline super syn. Iím a little concerned that the copper increased by 6 times in this sample. It may not be a big deal but Iím a little OCD and worry about these things. I had collected this sample back in April but just got around to sending it in. Itís been in the Blackstone container since then. Maybe these 5.6ís prefer moly over sodium? What do you guys think? What parts of the engine are copper anyway?
12 Nissan Titan bought new. 53k miles. PP and Fram Ultra

#4655525 - 02/04/18 07:17 AM Re: 12 Nissan Titan high copper [Re: 60ampfuse]
WyrTwister Offline

Registered: 01/13/13
Posts: 1136
Loc: Texas
I think the main & rod bearings have copper underneath the white metal . But if you were into the copper on the bearings , I would think you would see high numbers for other metals ?

Off hand , I can not think of other sources for copper , except the electrical system . And I do not know wgy the electrical system would be in contact with oil ? Maybe some copper gaskets ?

So , I was wondering the same question . Where is the copper coming from ?

Is copper used in the additive pack of some oils ?
God bless

#4655534 - 02/04/18 07:34 AM Re: 12 Nissan Titan high copper [Re: 60ampfuse]
zrxkawboy Offline

Registered: 11/30/04
Posts: 1731
Loc: SD
Since you apparently switched oil brands (looking at moly levels), I would just keep an eye on it and not worry about it for now. Overall, your report looks fine.
"Think of all the Ford owners who will someday want an automobile." John Dodge

#4656295 - 02/04/18 07:50 PM Re: 12 Nissan Titan high copper [Re: 60ampfuse]
Artem Offline

Registered: 10/30/10
Posts: 5042
Loc: Florida
Originally Posted By: 60ampfuse
Maybe these 5.6ís prefer moly over sodium?

Does the OEM Nissan branded oil have Moly in it? I highly doubt 50ppm of Moly in the oil = no cooper. Seems like a very insignificant amount to me.
2014 Mazda 3 Hatch 2.0L & 6spd - Castrol Edge 5w26 Custom Frankenblend. LOL.

(Four quarts 5w20 + One quart 5w50)

#4656716 - 02/05/18 09:25 AM Re: 12 Nissan Titan high copper [Re: 60ampfuse]
KCJeep Offline

Registered: 06/30/11
Posts: 6949
Loc: Mahzurrah!
It's 5 ppm more copper. Completely irrelevant.
04 Jeep Grand Cherokee 4.0 147k - GTX 5w30/10w40
09 Lincoln MKZ AWD 89k - Magnatec 5w30
12 KIA Sedona 83k - Edge 0w40
09 Ford Focus 127k - GTX UC 5w30

#4656791 - 02/05/18 10:22 AM Re: 12 Nissan Titan high copper [Re: 60ampfuse]
SubieRubyRoo Offline

Registered: 05/14/12
Posts: 600
Loc: Winchester, Indiana
If the PP was working so well for you, why did you change? No real cost savings between PP and Napa I'm sure (unless there was a sale)...? Even the Mobil Super gave really solid results.

Does the Titan have an oil cooler? Subarus especially that have oil coolers tend to show higher copper in UOAs because of this. Maybe the sodium is chelating the copper more than PP or Mobil (there ya go, Overkill smile ). I'd go back to PP if it was my truck.

#4656862 - 02/05/18 11:24 AM Re: 12 Nissan Titan high copper [Re: 60ampfuse]

Registered: 04/28/08
Posts: 35731
Loc: Ontario, Canada
6ppm is insignificant, I wouldn't worry unless it starts to trend up.

Does this engine have an oil cooler?
2016 Durango Limited
2016 Grand Cherokee SRT

#4656983 - 02/05/18 01:37 PM Re: 12 Nissan Titan high copper [Re: 60ampfuse]
JG45 Offline

Registered: 03/12/08
Posts: 9
Loc: Bartlett, TN
Don 't these have copper oil coolers or something? I see lot's of Nissan trucks with high copper.