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Not happy with Autolite plugs #4651861
01/31/18 09:25 AM
01/31/18 09:25 AM
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Deplorable in apple valley, ca
Chris142 Offline OP
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50K ago I put some Autolite Double Platinum plugs in my Jeep because the People of the Jeep boards really liked them. Said they would last 100k easily.

Lately the Jeep hasn't been running well. No codes but I knew something was not right. Pulled a plug to see if anything was going on there.

Found the Platinum tip completely gone from 2 of the plugs. Gap is supposed to be .035 but these 2 were .060.

When I installed them I did check the gap but I did not force the gap tool into the Platinum.I checked the gap very easily as to not damage them.

I hope the Platinum tips didn't do any damage when they left the scene.

Replaced them with NGK plugs. Power and running good is back.


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Re: Not happy with Autolite plugs [Re: Chris142] #4651892
01/31/18 09:47 AM
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From my time at Pepboys, I found out that some Jeeps of that vintage came with NGK's from the factory so I'm not surprised that was the issue. Some Jeep owners were surprised when I told them the NGK's were the original part. Others really didn't care.


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Re: Not happy with Autolite plugs [Re: Chris142] #4651903
01/31/18 09:56 AM
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Iridium last 100,000 miles. I wouldn't expect a Platinum to last quite that long.

Last edited by ZZman; 01/31/18 10:01 AM.

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Re: Not happy with Autolite plugs [Re: Chris142] #4651942
01/31/18 10:15 AM
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Thanks for the heads up. Autolite had this problem some years ago also but they seemed to have it taken care of, now apparently the problem has returned.
Note to self: Autolite = Add to do not use parts list. LOL


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Re: Not happy with Autolite plugs [Re: Chris142] #4651961
01/31/18 10:55 AM
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Georgia
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Thanks for sharing. I always use OE plugs just because of stories like this.


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Re: Not happy with Autolite plugs [Re: Chris142] #4651989
01/31/18 11:32 AM
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The Canyons
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On a race weekend, we could go through a minimum of 64, and up to 128 Autolite spark plugs. A failure is very rare.

Re: Not happy with Autolite plugs [Re: Chris142] #4652046
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I stick with Autolite plugs in Ford applications, NGK in all others. Champion, never. That seems to have worked for the past 40+ years, for 'me.'


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Re: Not happy with Autolite plugs [Re: Chris142] #4652055
01/31/18 12:26 PM
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I just buy the $2 Champions and change them more often, no issues so far. About a 10 minute job on a 4.0L


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Re: Not happy with Autolite plugs [Re: THafeez] #4652065
01/31/18 12:38 PM
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Chris142 Offline OP
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Originally Posted By: THafeez
From my time at Pepboys, I found out that some Jeeps of that vintage came with NGK's from the factory so I'm not surprised that was the issue. Some Jeep owners were surprised when I told them the NGK's were the original part. Others really didn't care.
mine had champions from the factory. Champion is now making the plugs in India. I feel that QC may be pretty bad from there. The NGK were made in japan


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Z400 castrol T 10w40
Can am maveric edge 5w40
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Re: Not happy with Autolite plugs [Re: Chris142] #4652079
01/31/18 12:55 PM
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Autolite is now 100% Mexican or Chinese made, the ones I've seen at Wal-Mart were Chinese for the coppers and Mexican for the rest. Bosch has been making plugs in India for a while.

I don't drive anything that uses Autolite or Champion from the factory - and while I do trust their OEM plugs(Motorcraft or ACDelco), the aftermarket ones might be made on a different production run or line. My instinct is NGK or Denso in almost anything.

Re: Not happy with Autolite plugs [Re: Chris142] #4652152
01/31/18 02:15 PM
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Looks like I'll be using NGK or Denso also. These companies really shoot themselves in the foot by sourcing outside the USA. If I have to buy imported, I'll buy from Japan where at least the quality is decent.


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Re: Not happy with Autolite plugs [Re: Chris142] #4652198
01/31/18 02:56 PM
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I use NGK in my Jeeps and Land Rover.


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Re: Not happy with Autolite plugs [Re: Chris142] #4652218
01/31/18 03:19 PM
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Charlotte, NC
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I've had issues with Autolite double plats in 2 different Dodge 3.3 v6s. That was maybe 10 years ago.


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Re: Not happy with Autolite plugs [Re: Chris142] #4652235
01/31/18 03:32 PM
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Autolites should never be put in a Jeep, much less a 4.0.

Stick with Champion copper's and change them at 30k. Easy peasy.


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Re: Not happy with Autolite plugs [Re: 14Accent] #4652875
02/01/18 07:44 AM
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Originally Posted By: 14Accent
Autolites should never be put in a Jeep, much less a 4.0.

Stick with Champion copper's and change them at 30k. Easy peasy.


Ran my Jeep 4.0L with Autolites never an issue. Used Copper the first time and then double platinums. I run Autolites in my 78 and 79 Jeep CJ7's....never an issue. I just put Autolite Iridium XP's in the wifes 2014 Jeep Grand Cherokee...so far, 4k miles and again - no issues.

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