Recent Topics
Valvoline 2 Cycle TC-W3 Marine Oil - 6qt - $20
by Jimzz
06/25/18 10:45 AM
Plumbing/Bldg Experts: Cause of Wet Slab?
by LoneRanger
06/25/18 10:13 AM
How to CONFIRM the Country of Manufacture
by Ed_Flecko
06/25/18 09:58 AM
Replacing trans oil seal
by redhat
06/25/18 09:50 AM
VW diesels sitting in huge lots waiting......
by ZZman
06/25/18 09:09 AM
DTD/DT Independence Day Promos
by Sayjac
06/25/18 08:39 AM
It's AMSOIL®, not Amsoil
by Rat407
06/25/18 06:39 AM
VW Passat 2007
by madRiver
06/25/18 06:18 AM
Review: CVJ Remanufactured CV Axles
by The Critic
06/25/18 03:40 AM
Towing without 85w140?
by OilFilters
06/25/18 03:07 AM
2015 VW GTI autobahn oil questions
by Skyalbo
06/24/18 11:28 PM
Corrosion in the garage - salt or humidity?
by Kurtatron
06/24/18 11:13 PM
Darn dogs
by AZjeff
06/24/18 10:21 PM
New GC?
by Bullwinkle007
06/24/18 10:04 PM
The guy with the plexiglass head on you tube
by andyd
06/24/18 09:21 PM
'07 Pacifica Timing Belt Replacement success
by 92saturnsl2
06/24/18 09:10 PM
SAE 90 v 85/140
by Knuckle078
06/24/18 09:10 PM
Mobil 1 5W30-HM 5,011 mi, 1999 Ford Escort
by WA1DH
06/24/18 08:45 PM
Schaeffer's oil reviews on Amazon
by zfasts03
06/24/18 07:41 PM
Decent MP3 player
by Ed_T
06/24/18 07:08 PM
Newest Members
dhy808, ROD_Z, lozpxs, danthemanx07, FunktasticLucky
65319 Registered Users
Who's Online
90 registered (ArrestMeRedZ, 853okg, 2015_PSD, ALR, 4 invisible), 1598 Guests and 48 Spiders online.
Key: Admin, Global Mod, Mod
Forum Stats
65319 Members
67 Forums
285965 Topics
4772137 Posts

Max Online: 3590 @ 01/24/17 08:07 PM
Donate to BITOG
Page 1 of 2 1 2 >
Topic Options
#4645241 - 01/24/18 06:10 PM 2003 Civic Oil Burning Help
maverickfhs Offline


Registered: 12/28/16
Posts: 2011
Loc: VA
I opened this thread sometime ago: https://bobistheoilguy.com/forums/ubbthreads.php/topics/4411189#Post4411189

We tried using M10W40, STP Oil treatment(which reduced oil consumption), replaced PCV valve, although old one was fine.

Car is still consuming oil say a quart in 500-750 miles, without any visible smoke and no dripping on the driveway and no leaks. Overall power and fuel economy, everything is fine.

In terms of HM oil, which one do you guys suggest? Anything in 10W30 or 5W30 weight? Of if you have any other advice or tips for taking care of this Oil issue? Without this oil issue, car has been very dependable.

Thanks so much for the help.
_________________________
2006 Civic EX 200K/AT
2006 Acura TSX 177K/AT

Top
#4645249 - 01/24/18 06:14 PM Re: 2003 Civic Oil Burning Help [Re: maverickfhs]
SatinSilver Offline


Registered: 01/24/08
Posts: 10182
Loc: OH
Maxlife Red bottle 5w30 and a new oem pcv valve did the trick for my 99 Accord that was consuming oil. The first time I noticed it low a qt I topped off with Mobil 5000 and it quickly consumed that. But after topping off with ML and the pcv valve no more consumption. So it was one of the two. The trick is to catch it early.

Top
#4645266 - 01/24/18 06:23 PM Re: 2003 Civic Oil Burning Help [Re: maverickfhs]
Chris142 Offline


Registered: 06/05/03
Posts: 16844
Loc: Deplorable in apple valley, ca
I would try a Dino oil.
_________________________
02 Wrangler durablend 10w40
87 F250 traveler 15w40
04 Tahoe super-s 10w30
Z400 castrol T 10w40
Can am maveric edge 5w40
57 case tractor 15w40

Top
#4645267 - 01/24/18 06:25 PM Re: 2003 Civic Oil Burning Help [Re: maverickfhs]
maverickfhs Offline


Registered: 12/28/16
Posts: 2011
Loc: VA
Believe it or not, it has mostly been used with Dino.

Any particular weight of Dino?
_________________________
2006 Civic EX 200K/AT
2006 Acura TSX 177K/AT

Top
#4645270 - 01/24/18 06:28 PM Re: 2003 Civic Oil Burning Help [Re: maverickfhs]
SatinSilver Offline


Registered: 01/24/08
Posts: 10182
Loc: OH
I wonder if the OP mixed up a bunch of different oils?

Originally Posted By: maverickfhs
I have seen many guys here make their own oil brew and mention, if 0W20 is mixed with 0W40 with 4/1 parts, it'll be close to 0W30 and what not terms of ratios...

Question is, how do you get that approximation of mixing blends?

Is there an online calculator for viscosity and all and for that what do I need?

Thanks for any advice and help thumbsup

Top
#4645293 - 01/24/18 06:46 PM Re: 2003 Civic Oil Burning Help [Re: maverickfhs]
Mr Nice Offline


Registered: 09/12/04
Posts: 21209
Loc: Orlando, FL
I agree with MaxLife and new PCV valve.

Top
#4645338 - 01/24/18 07:43 PM Re: 2003 Civic Oil Burning Help [Re: maverickfhs]
Charlie2015 Offline


Registered: 04/24/15
Posts: 243
Loc: Georgia
Recommend Maxlife. Start with 5w30.
_________________________
1998 Honda Accord EX 2.3L Auto
2009 Scion TC Manual

Top
#4645343 - 01/24/18 07:50 PM Re: 2003 Civic Oil Burning Help [Re: maverickfhs]
Bud_One Offline


Registered: 04/19/14
Posts: 1832
Loc: Spring,Texas
I'd try an 10W30 Conventional first .
I've had good results with Havoline and Chevron Supreme 10W30 slowing down consumption in my old Accord.
2cents
_________________________
16 Civic-M1 EP 0W-20, TG7317
14 Civic-M1 EP 0W-20, XG7317
05 Chevy 2500HD-QSUD 10W-30, XG3675
97 Accord Wagon-Havoline Conv 5W-30, PH3593A

Top
#4645437 - 01/24/18 09:22 PM Re: 2003 Civic Oil Burning Help [Re: maverickfhs]
Dobbie Offline


Registered: 01/17/18
Posts: 31
Loc: Chester County/Pa.
Why not try a 10W30 or 10W40 HM oil for multiple OCIs? What do you have to lose.

Top
#4645529 - 01/24/18 11:54 PM Re: 2003 Civic Oil Burning Help [Re: maverickfhs]
c502cid Offline


Registered: 01/17/03
Posts: 1004
Loc: Elizabeth. Colorado
As the owner of many a Honda, the oil burning issue is their Achilles heel. I have had some luck with adding about 10-15% MMO to either an oil change or whatever I'm adding every time I top it off. If you changed the PCV (and thank you Honda engineers for putting the PCV in a horrible to access location) the next issue is stuck rings. I slowed down a Prelude from a qt every 400 miles to a qt every 800-1000 miles doing this for about 3 months.

Just to note, the oil passage between the PCV and the throttle body gets horribly plugged up. Now every Honda I get gets a new PCV, then I pull off the throttle body and run a flexible pipe cleaner soaked in carb cleaner through the passage. It takes time but most are clogged up. Clean the IAC valve and the throttle plate while the throttle body is off too!


Good luck. I have a love/hate relationship with Honda.
_________________________
17 SuperDuty 6.2 4x4
15 Chev Trax AWD
02 GMC 3500 8.1/Allison 4x4
00 Blazer 4x4
97/98 Civic's
84 Chev K30 454EFI 4x4
71 GMC Jimmy 502 RamJet

Top
#4645666 - 01/25/18 08:06 AM Re: 2003 Civic Oil Burning Help [Re: c502cid]
krismoriah72 Offline


Registered: 02/16/09
Posts: 1521
Loc: wv
Oil control rings are stuck with carbon buildup.

You can do an aggressive piston soak with possible luck.

Here is a Honda stuck oil control ring thread-

https://bobistheoilguy.com/forums/ubbthreads.php/topics/3990497/Freeing_up_dirty,_stuck_oil_co

Top
#4645668 - 01/25/18 08:11 AM Re: 2003 Civic Oil Burning Help [Re: c502cid]
Tman220 Offline


Registered: 09/20/16
Posts: 146
Loc: MN
Originally Posted By: c502cid
As the owner of many a Honda, the oil burning issue is their Achilles heel. I have had some luck with


Good luck. I have a love/hate relationship with Honda.


In general on these engines what usually causes them to burn oil so badly? I have nearly the same car as the OP (04 Civic LX M5) with about the same amount of miles 154K and I have a complete opposite experience with oil consumption. Between 5000 mile changes oil consumption is barely noticeable on the dipstick.

On the OP's car, I would suspect valve seals because of the unknown history of the used head. Do these engine also have a tendency to plug the oil return holes in the pistons?

Then again my engine has never been seriously over heated either due to the head gasket issues these engines seem to have. I'm guessing that's why the head was replaced in he first place on the OP's car.
_________________________
2012 Regal GS Turbo PP 5w30
1994 Camaro Z28 LT1 355 CI, 430 RWHP PP 5W30

Top
#4645674 - 01/25/18 08:18 AM Re: 2003 Civic Oil Burning Help [Re: maverickfhs]
maverickfhs Offline


Registered: 12/28/16
Posts: 2011
Loc: VA
Tman220, it never burned oil before, but jumped timing and because of that head needed to be replaced. Now it's consuming oil. Never overheated either.
_________________________
2006 Civic EX 200K/AT
2006 Acura TSX 177K/AT

Top
#4645676 - 01/25/18 08:19 AM Re: 2003 Civic Oil Burning Help [Re: maverickfhs]
bradtech Offline


Registered: 03/10/17
Posts: 81
Loc: OK, USA
I'm starting to notice a considerable difference with Castrol GTX 10w30 HM in my 2.8L 1993 s10 with 205k. I even have a minor rear main leak. I've only put 6000-7000 miles on it in two years though. Have thought about going up to 10w40 next OC.


Edited by bradtech (01/25/18 08:20 AM)
_________________________
17 Chevrolet Malibu 3k 5w30 AC Delco Full Syn
08 Hyundai Santa Fe 78k 5w20 GTX HM OEM Filter
93 Chevy S10 203k 10w30 GTX HM ACDELCO PF52E Filter

Top
#4645684 - 01/25/18 08:24 AM Re: 2003 Civic Oil Burning Help [Re: Tman220]
Bxnanaz Online   content


Registered: 11/28/17
Posts: 86
Loc: SC, USA
Originally Posted By: Tman220
Originally Posted By: c502cid
As the owner of many a Honda, the oil burning issue is their Achilles heel. I have had some luck with


Good luck. I have a love/hate relationship with Honda.


In general on these engines what usually causes them to burn oil so badly? I have nearly the same car as the OP (04 Civic LX M5) with about the same amount of miles 154K and I have a complete opposite experience with oil consumption. Between 5000 mile changes oil consumption is barely noticeable on the dipstick.

On the OP's car, I would suspect valve seals because of the unknown history of the used head. Do these engine also have a tendency to plug the oil return holes in the pistons?

Then again my engine has never been seriously over heated either due to the head gasket issues these engines seem to have. I'm guessing that's why the head was replaced in he first place on the OP's car.


In his case, H series engines have FRM cylinder liners which are extremely tough, but prone to wearing down rings. If you replace rings on an H series, it’s OEM, or Mahle Gold. PCV valve on an H is right on top the Valve cover..

Top
Page 1 of 2 1 2 >