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RockAuto OEM Toyota copy oilfilter cut open 4876mi #4627169
01/07/18 05:36 PM
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This will be the last one of these filters that I post as it was the last one that I had left in my stash. This filter was in use for 4876 miles with API SL rated QS Defy 5w20 from last years AZ clearance. Another Rock Auto clearance filter replaced this filter but this time it was an Affina made Car Quest Red 85348. ADBV on this filter provided minimal ADBV function, second filter in a row that I noted this on, valve was stiff but still somewhat pliable.















I forgot to mention above, this came off of my 2004 Lexus ES330 with the 3MZ-FE engine. The car had 175,040 miles on it at the time of service and currently consumes no oil to speak of. Replacement oil was 3 remaining quarts of QS Defy 5w20 high zinc SL oil, 1 quart of (non GTL) Pennzoil Ultra Euro L 5w30 and 1 Quart of PYB 20w50. All were leftovers and odd quarts leftover from last year's AZ clearance. I know it seems like an odd mix but I figured I'd stick to all SOPUS to try and mitigate any add pack difference between brands. I'll service and sample again in 5,000 miles.


Luke
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Re: RockAuto OEM Toyota copy oilfilter cut open 4876mi [Re: FlyNavyP3] #4627174
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Look's a decent filter

I've got a bunch of OEM Toyota units for my Camry, and I've had excellent success with the 910S, with it's silicone ADBV and base end bypass


'06 Toyota Camry SE V6 3MZ-FE 100k
'01 Mercury Villager Estate VG33E 52k
'06 Ford Taurus SE Vulcan 60k
'13 Chrysler 300 3.6 Pentastar 230k
Re: RockAuto OEM Toyota copy oilfilter cut open 4876mi [Re: FlyNavyP3] #4627176
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Looks good to me sir smile

Thanks for c&p


09' Camry LE, 141,020 miles

PP 5w30 and TG 4967
Re: RockAuto OEM Toyota copy oilfilter cut open 4876mi [Re: FlyNavyP3] #4627179
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Do you mind measuring the filter's outside length from end cap to end cap? I'd appreciate it. Thank You.

Re: RockAuto OEM Toyota copy oilfilter cut open 4876mi [Re: das_peikko] #4627202
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Originally Posted By: das_peikko
Do you mind measuring the filter's outside length from end cap to end cap? I'd appreciate it. Thank You.


I can do that, but why? It's within about 1/8 of an inch of a MC FL-910S or a Fram PH-3614. If you require the information I'll grab a dial caliber and go measure it.


Luke
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Re: RockAuto OEM Toyota copy oilfilter cut open 4876mi [Re: michaelluscher] #4627203
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Originally Posted By: michaelluscher
Look's a decent filter

I've got a bunch of OEM Toyota units for my Camry, and I've had excellent success with the 910S, with it's silicone ADBV and base end bypass



I have also had excellent luck with the FL-910S, I have an older stock one without louvers sitting on the shelf in the garage that I'll probably use on the next oil change in my 4Runner as it takes the same filter as the Lexus.


Luke
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Re: RockAuto OEM Toyota copy oilfilter cut open 4876mi [Re: 53' Stude] #4627204
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Thanks Car51, this has been sitting around for a week or so, just finally got around to cutting it today.


Luke
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Re: RockAuto OEM Toyota copy oilfilter cut open 4876mi [Re: FlyNavyP3] #4627206
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Originally Posted By: FlyNavyP3
I can do that, but why? It's within about 1/8 of an inch of a MC FL-910S or a Fram PH-3614. If you require the information I'll grab a dial caliber and go measure it.


I want to compare it to a WIX 51040XP that I cut open yesterday. That filter measures 2.250 inches from end cap to end cap. That is a tiny filter! How much filtering it that going to do? You don't need dial calipers; a tape measure is good enough for me. Much appreciated. Thanks.

Re: RockAuto OEM Toyota copy oilfilter cut open 4876mi [Re: das_peikko] #4627211
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Originally Posted By: das_peikko
Originally Posted By: FlyNavyP3
I can do that, but why? It's within about 1/8 of an inch of a MC FL-910S or a Fram PH-3614. If you require the information I'll grab a dial caliber and go measure it.


I want to compare it to a WIX 51040XP that I cut open yesterday. That filter measures 2.250 inches from end cap to end cap. That is a tiny filter! How much filtering it that going to do? You don't need dial calipers; a tape measure is good enough for me. Much appreciated. Thanks.


It's 3 3/8" tall from the base gasket to the highest point on the dome end of the can.


Luke
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Re: RockAuto OEM Toyota copy oilfilter cut open 4876mi [Re: FlyNavyP3] #4627213
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Or did you want the measurement of just the filter element cap to cap?

If so it's 2.5625" or 2 9/16"


Luke
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Re: RockAuto OEM Toyota copy oilfilter cut open 4876mi [Re: FlyNavyP3] #4627216
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Just the filter element with the end caps in place. Top of metal end cap to Top of metal end cap. Thanks.

Re: RockAuto OEM Toyota copy oilfilter cut open 4876mi [Re: das_peikko] #4627218
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Originally Posted By: das_peikko
Just the filter element with the end caps in place. Top of metal end cap to Top of metal end cap. Thanks.


2.5625"


Luke
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Re: RockAuto OEM Toyota copy oilfilter cut open 4876mi [Re: FlyNavyP3] #4627224
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Originally Posted By: FlyNavyP3
2.5625"


I knew it! Even a Toyota filter is longer! I don't know what GM was thinking when they specified an oil filter for the 3.8L V6. But if you buy a new car like a Camaro with the 3.6L V6, they give you a much longer filter.

Re: RockAuto OEM Toyota copy oilfilter cut open 4876mi [Re: FlyNavyP3] #4627440
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I wonder what a UOA report would be like for wear metals?

If you measured the outside diameter of the filter and selected a matching
FilterMag, the next time you cut open a filter you'll see all the wear metals
the media does not catch and you'll be better off for it!

I wish I could do it for my last new car from day-one, but dealers are awful!! been doing
on my out-of-warranty for last 4 yrs!

Re: RockAuto OEM Toyota copy oilfilter cut open 4876mi [Re: i_hate_autofraud] #4628446
01/08/18 06:22 PM
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Originally Posted By: i_hate_autofraud


I wonder what a UOA report would be like for wear metals?

If you measured the outside diameter of the filter and selected a matching
FilterMag, the next time you cut open a filter you'll see all the wear metals
the media does not catch and you'll be better off for it!

I wish I could do it for my last new car from day-one, but dealers are awful!! been doing
on my out-of-warranty for last 4 yrs!



I will have a UOA coming for this filter in the not too distant future as well as the previous run which also used this filter. The only data point I have on wear metals using one of these filters was using PYB SAE 30 and it posted single digit Fe numbers over 5,000 miles. This engine sheds almost no iron. I've even run past 10,000 miles with Fe still in the single digits. I won't bother with a filter magnet, this engine will far and away out live my need for this car or the body of the car. I'll post a UOA when it comes in. I'll find the UOA I have for the last oil change sample using one of these cheap filters.


Luke
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