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90's Quaker State 4x4 oil wax film #4591060
12/01/17 02:53 PM
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Pajero Offline OP
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Does anyone recall Quaker State 4x4 oil from the mid 1990's? I used it for a long time in my 94 Montero. Where ever the oil didn't heat up, I could peal it away. I only bring this up because of the varnish I have inside my engine. I remember reading about this particular oil concerning this is in a magazine, prior to the internet.



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Re: 90's Quaker State 4x4 oil wax film [Re: Pajero] #4591145
12/01/17 04:31 PM
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It would be nice to have an old bottle to sample and analyze


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Re: 90's Quaker State 4x4 oil wax film [Re: Pajero] #4591157
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I remember it but never used it. Havoline with the great rebates Western Auto provided was my PCMO of choice in the 90's.


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Re: 90's Quaker State 4x4 oil wax film [Re: Nyogtha] #4591164
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Yep. Western Auto was big back then and Havoline could be found. That was before the big boys auto parts stores went national.

Was the wax issue only with the 4x4 oil? I thought it was a Quaker State thing? I had a friend who had the oil gel up. QS had a huge pr issue but fortunately it was before the internet really took off. Otherwise it would have ruined that brand.


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Re: 90's Quaker State 4x4 oil wax film [Re: Pajero] #4591273
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I used the 4x4 oil. It came in clear bottles, the synthetic.
I had 0 issues. I think this is another Pennzoil sludged my engine with wax story.



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Re: 90's Quaker State 4x4 oil wax film [Re: Pajero] #4591279
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I had used it back then and never had an issue. I liked the clear bottles it came in. Wish more oils would do that. grin2


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Re: 90's Quaker State 4x4 oil wax film [Re: Pajero] #4591462
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Wow-mid 90s. Didn't realize that. Still have 3 quarts of 10W-40 Q Torque 4x4. Recently used up all of my 10W-30. Sorry, cant upload pics to this device.


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Re: 90's Quaker State 4x4 oil wax film [Re: Pajero] #4591485
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I’ve heard so many horror stories about “Quaker Sludge”. Someone used it back 25-35 years ago and it blew their engine, etc... It’s definitely not like that now. My wife bought a van last year with QS 5W-30 from Firestone in it. It was about 5K since the fill, and it came out at normal thickness. The filter was just oily, no sludge.

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Re: 90's Quaker State 4x4 oil wax film [Re: Pajero] #4591615
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My dad & I used plenty of on sale Pennzoil & Quaker State in the 70's & 80's, and I used up the last of his stash in the early 90's after he passed away in 1986. We never saw any dludge, but we always bought & used straight weight SAE 30 - my dad had no use for multigrade motor oils. I think he was a wise man at the time.


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Re: 90's Quaker State 4x4 oil wax film [Re: Nyogtha] #4591643
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My dad had little use for monogrades, but with our climate, it's not a big wonder. wink We used a lot of Quaker State in the taxis in the 1970s to 1990s with no concerns, all conventional 10w-30.


Plain, simple Garak.

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Re: 90's Quaker State 4x4 oil wax film [Re: Pajero] #4591820
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Yeah, y'all were like polar opposites of us in the South Texas Gulf Coast!


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Re: 90's Quaker State 4x4 oil wax film [Re: Nyogtha] #4591827
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I think I saw SAE 30 once on the farm over the years, Rotella, and that was probably a freebie from his brother who ran a Shell station. That's when it was still in cans, and I used it in the garden tractor, and almost got paddled for it, until I showed him it was sufficient by specification and temperature for the application. I was 12 or younger then, and still paid attention to the owner's manual. wink


Plain, simple Garak.

2008 Infiniti G37 - Shell ROTELLA T6 Multi-Vehicle 5w-30, NAPA Gold 7356
1984 F-150 4.9L - Quaker State GB 10w-30, Wix 51515
Re: 90's Quaker State 4x4 oil wax film [Re: Garak] #4591837
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Originally Posted By: Garak
I think I saw SAE 30 once on the farm over the years, Rotella, and that was probably a freebie from his brother who ran a Shell station. That's when it was still in cans, and I used it in the garden tractor, and almost got paddled for it, until I showed him it was sufficient by specification and temperature for the application. I was 12 or younger then, and still paid attention to the owner's manual. wink

You're not a real BITOGer until you almost get paddled for putting the wrong brand of oil in daddy's tractor.

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Re: 90's Quaker State 4x4 oil wax film [Re: Wurlitzer] #4591839
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Well, it wasn't the "wrong" one, but he had words for monogrades that wouldn't get past the swear filter here. wink "That thick [cussword]," he called it. It was a lawn tractor that never was used in anything colder than 55 F, so a monograde really was never a concern.


Plain, simple Garak.

2008 Infiniti G37 - Shell ROTELLA T6 Multi-Vehicle 5w-30, NAPA Gold 7356
1984 F-150 4.9L - Quaker State GB 10w-30, Wix 51515
Re: 90's Quaker State 4x4 oil wax film [Re: Panzerman] #4592024
12/02/17 01:20 PM
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Sir,

Negative on sludge. I have varnish in my rig. I really like Pennzoil oils, my pops used them. Unfortunately, PUP sheared in my application. I'm trying to puzzle out, how my Montero developed varnish and when. I really never exploited the oil filler cap, until BITOG.



Respectfully,

Pajero!


Always remember "Planned obsolescence."

1994 Montero SR 3.5 DOHC, 133,xxx
Fram Ultra/ Snorkel with Pre-filter
K-9-Co-pilot
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