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Jeep Renegade 2.4L Pennzoil Platinum 7,431 #4584303
11/25/17 08:37 AM
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Grand Rapids, Michigan
Toto Offline OP
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2016 Jeep Renegade Latitude 4x4 2.4L
Code:
Unit Time	15,098	        7,667				
Oil Time	7,431	        7,667				
0W 20	        Pennzoil 	Factory				
Type	        Platinum 	Fill				
Iron	        17	        28				
Chromium 	<1	        <1				
Lead	        <1	        2				
Copper 	        8	        23				
Tin	        <1	        <1				
Aluminum 	12	        15				
Nickel 	        <1	        <1				
Silver	        <1	        <1				
Titanium 	<1	        <1				
Vanadium 	<1	        <1				
Silicon  	32	        100				
Sodium  	36	        64				
Potassium   	3	        2				
Magnesium 	14	        7				
Calcium 	2185	        2019				
Barium	        <1	        <1				
Phosphorus 	608	        656				
Zinc     	726	        753				
Molybdenum 	77	        202				
Boron 	        <5	        19				
Water   	<0.05   	<0.05				
Coolant 	No      	No				
Viscosity 	7.6     	7.4				
TBN     	3.9     	3.9				
						
						
						
						
						
						
						
						
						
						
						
						







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Re: Jeep Renegade 2.4L Pennzoil Platinum 7,431 [Re: Toto] #4584306
11/25/17 08:40 AM
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Does the engine get noisy with the oil down to 7.6 KV100. Should retain viscosity better when wearin is through at ~20K miles

Looks solid.

Last edited by ARCOgraphite; 11/25/17 08:41 AM.

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Re: Jeep Renegade 2.4L Pennzoil Platinum 7,431 [Re: Toto] #4584320
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I have the same engine in my Journey. They are great engines when fully broken in. I have almost 0's on my UOA's.

cheers


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Re: Jeep Renegade 2.4L Pennzoil Platinum 7,431 [Re: StevieC] #4584325
11/25/17 09:11 AM
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Originally Posted By: StevieC
I have the same engine in my Journey. They are great engines when fully broken in. I have almost 0's on my UOA's.

cheers


Is that the so-called "World Engine".....developed jointly by Chrysler, Mitsubishi and Hyundai?...I've always liked that engine.


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Re: Jeep Renegade 2.4L Pennzoil Platinum 7,431 [Re: pbm] #4584335
11/25/17 09:31 AM
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Originally Posted By: pbm
Originally Posted By: StevieC
I have the same engine in my Journey. They are great engines when fully broken in. I have almost 0's on my UOA's.

cheers


Is that the so-called "World Engine".....developed jointly by Chrysler, Mitsubishi and Hyundai?...I've always liked that engine.




If I remember correctly, it is with updates of course. Does Fiat still get engines from the GEMA plant? I thought production had been shifted back to North America, ie USA and Mexico?


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Re: Jeep Renegade 2.4L Pennzoil Platinum 7,431 [Re: Toto] #4584338
11/25/17 09:38 AM
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Yes it's the World Gas Engine. Although it's noisier and my thirsty than the Mitsu/Hyundai version of the engine it is a very durable engine that puts up with a lot of stress and is quite easy on the oil. At least with my Amsoil anyway because I frequently drive my Journey like I stole it. Come get me coppers.

I intend to run bypass filtration with it now that it's off warranty and I'm just about through with all my EA15K filters.

GEMA built the engines until 2012 and now they are built by Chrysler. Mine is a 2015 vintage so it appears they are doing it properly with 0's in my UOA's. grin2


My UOA is here: (Sampled at 4900km's) https://bobistheoilguy.com/forums/ubbthreads.php/ubb/showflat/Number/4540607/Searchpage/3/Main/277478/Words/5w20+sso/Search/true/Re:_AMSOIL_SSO_5W20_UOA




Last edited by StevieC; 11/25/17 09:43 AM.

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Re: Jeep Renegade 2.4L Pennzoil Platinum 7,431 [Re: Toto] #4584341
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Just DDG searched and it appears the engines come out of Dundee Michigan.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Global_Engine_Alliance


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Re: Jeep Renegade 2.4L Pennzoil Platinum 7,431 [Re: ARCOgraphite] #4584343
11/25/17 09:47 AM
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Originally Posted By: ARCOgraphite
Does the engine get noisy with the oil down to 7.6 KV100. Should retain viscosity better when wearin is through at ~20K miles

Looks solid.


I have not noticed extra noise, this is my wife's vehicle, I do drive it but not near as much as she does, I'll have to pay more attention to the noise level.
TOTO.


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Re: Jeep Renegade 2.4L Pennzoil Platinum 7,431 [Re: Toto] #4584348
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Originally Posted By: Toto
Originally Posted By: ARCOgraphite
Does the engine get noisy with the oil down to 7.6 KV100. Should retain viscosity better when wearin is through at ~20K miles

Looks solid.


I have not noticed extra noise, this is my wife's vehicle, I do drive it but not near as much as she does, I'll have to pay more attention to the noise level.
TOTO.




Arco is just pushing your button here. Dont worry about noise.


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Re: Jeep Renegade 2.4L Pennzoil Platinum 7,431 [Re: Toto] #4584374
11/25/17 10:28 AM
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Starting about 2013, FCA started converting over to the 2.4L Tigershark engine, which was nearly a complete redesign from the original GEMA engine. StevieC's Journey might still have the "sewing machine" GEMA type engine while the OP's Renegade should have the Tigershark engine.

Here's a different version of the Wikipedia history: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_Gasoline_Engine

My Mopar mechanic buddy told me that when FCA bought out the rights to GEMA engine in 2009, they made a few minor improvements. I have the original/improved 2.4L in my Patriot. It has a reputation of excellent reliability, but unrefined operation. An article I read at Allpar.com states that the Tigershark only shares about 12% of the parts from the GEMA version.

Chrysler was very proud of the development of the Dundee Michigan plant, saying that they broke all the molds, including "hiring educated workers" that could perform multi tasks throughout the facility. https://www.allpar.com/corporate/factories/dundee.html

Re: Jeep Renegade 2.4L Pennzoil Platinum 7,431 [Re: Toto] #4584377
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Yes you are correct his 2.4 is slightly different than mine on the top end but the rest of the engine is the same.


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Re: Jeep Renegade 2.4L Pennzoil Platinum 7,431 [Re: Toto] #4584409
11/25/17 11:23 AM
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Yep, you don't see many complaints in regards to the Tigershark series of 4cyls. Maybe not the best fuel economy in the segment is about it.


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Re: Jeep Renegade 2.4L Pennzoil Platinum 7,431 [Re: StevieC] #4584439
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Originally Posted By: StevieC
Yes you are correct his 2.4 is slightly different than mine on the top end but the rest of the engine is the same.
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That's what I thought also, but this following article says: "Chrysler fits the Tigersharks all-new cast aluminum block with a new forged steel crank and connecting rods and a redesigned bearing beam. "

http://wardsauto.com/technology/tigershark-spells-end-world-engine

Re: Jeep Renegade 2.4L Pennzoil Platinum 7,431 [Re: Toto] #4584518
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Mine is all aluminum as well but has DOHC and doesn't have Multi-Air. shrug

Last edited by StevieC; 11/25/17 01:37 PM.

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Re: Jeep Renegade 2.4L Pennzoil Platinum 7,431 [Re: Toto] #4585155
11/26/17 05:19 AM
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Yes the newer 2.4 tigershark is completely different that the older 2.4. I did alot of research when I bought my dart 2.4 tigershark and it seems it's all new from top to bottom. My wife use to have a 2014 Chrysler 200 with the world 2.4 and I always do the servicing, I've noticed on my dart that not only does the top end look different but so does the bottom. Block is different as is oil pan and filter location. Like doitmyself notited the articles about the tigershark say all new block, crank, rods and pistons


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