Recent Topics
Diesel lube in Petrol Engine
by Ducked
14 minutes 4 seconds ago
New key programming cost
by 92saturnsl2
32 minutes 58 seconds ago
When you help someone and its time to walk away
by RazorsEdge
50 minutes 56 seconds ago
Sightly overfilled oil..ok or drain?
by flinter
52 minutes 35 seconds ago
Wheel says 50 mph max
by pda1122
Today at 06:54 PM
15w40 Maxlife in Motorcycle
by Brian553
Today at 06:39 PM
BITOGer in Ottawa/Orleans Canada area ? ...
by Papa Bear
Today at 06:36 PM
Old Engine SOUND
by MasterSolenoid
Today at 06:06 PM
ProMotive PH 2500 CUT OPEN
by car51
Today at 04:54 PM
go green or Dexcool?
by umungus1122
Today at 04:50 PM
Latest info on ExxonMobil synthetic base stocks
by Gokhan
Today at 04:49 PM
Pennzoil Platinum 5w30 - $3.21/qt Amazon
by SnowmanCO
Today at 04:37 PM
What Is Dexos Oil?
by mx5miata
Today at 04:27 PM
Hail damage means newer vehicle time!
by ZZman
Today at 03:39 PM
Trouble with Grease Gun
by tc1446
Today at 02:30 PM
Toyota brand conventional (TGMO)
by Jaha24k
Today at 01:45 PM
Any synthetic oil rebates currently or soon?
by 07Piloteer
Today at 01:32 PM
2018 Hyundai elantra motor oil
by kapama
Today at 01:00 PM
SN Plus on shelves
by 03s
Today at 12:23 PM
Group 90 Battery - 45 vs 60aH rating
by The Critic
Today at 12:19 PM
Newest Members
Ilia, nmac9, Theraven, battleman13, Shassis
65278 Registered Users
Who's Online
109 registered (2009Edge, 01rangerxl, 10WSmuckers, 2002 Maxima SE, 2K2AcuraTL, 379KITTY, 12 invisible), 1235 Guests and 62 Spiders online.
Key: Admin, Global Mod, Mod
Forum Stats
65278 Members
67 Forums
285670 Topics
4767502 Posts

Max Online: 3590 @ 01/24/17 08:07 PM
Donate to BITOG
Topic Options
#4580414 - 11/20/17 07:19 PM Delo and Klondike CK-4 15W40 VOA
PiperOne Offline


Registered: 10/25/17
Posts: 184
Loc: A Highway Near You
The Delo


The Klondike
_________________________
HDEO in Diesel Engines. No spark plugs here.

Top
#4580433 - 11/20/17 07:43 PM Re: Delo and Klondike CK-4 15W40 VOA [Re: PiperOne]
krismoriah72 Offline


Registered: 02/16/09
Posts: 1518
Loc: wv

Top
#4580469 - 11/20/17 08:19 PM Re: Delo and Klondike CK-4 15W40 VOA [Re: PiperOne]
zeng Offline


Registered: 09/01/15
Posts: 2188
Loc: Malaysia
Which variant of Delo is this, TBN 7.93 looks very low ?

Top
#4580493 - 11/20/17 08:39 PM Re: Delo and Klondike CK-4 15W40 VOA [Re: zeng]
PiperOne Offline


Registered: 10/25/17
Posts: 184
Loc: A Highway Near You
This is the new CK-4 version of conventional Delo...Delo 400 SDE. The TBN will look low as the test used in a UOA lab and the test used by the lubricant makers is different. Spec sheet TBN is usually ASTM D-2896 vs the lab test ASTM D-4739. The lab test uses a weaker acid mix and will always return a lower number. One of the reasons I do VOA's.

For example, the link above for the Rotella is the 2896 test...used oil does not get tested with that test...so if you really want to know how much TBN you lost during use...apples to apples.
_________________________
HDEO in Diesel Engines. No spark plugs here.

Top
#4580631 - 11/21/17 12:21 AM Re: Delo and Klondike CK-4 15W40 VOA [Re: PiperOne]
zeng Offline


Registered: 09/01/15
Posts: 2188
Loc: Malaysia
Ok, got it.
Thanks mate.
Btw, welcome

Top
#4580644 - 11/21/17 01:44 AM Re: Delo and Klondike CK-4 15W40 VOA [Re: PiperOne]
dustyroads Offline


Registered: 05/13/13
Posts: 1061
Loc: upstate NY
Thanks for the contributions! I'm using Delo products as well and even with the low phos/zinc, it's doing just fine. The TBN is really holding up nicely in the CK-4 version of XLE.

Welcome to BITOG!
_________________________
2013 F150 XLT 5.0 4X4 96k+
Edge 5W-30 / Fram 10575





Top
#4580681 - 11/21/17 04:20 AM Re: Delo and Klondike CK-4 15W40 VOA [Re: krismoriah72]
grj Offline


Registered: 10/03/17
Posts: 5
Loc: Phoenix, AZ
Originally Posted By: krismoriah72

Thanks for the Rotella link!
_________________________
2017 Yamaha FZ-07 ABS

Top
#4580771 - 11/21/17 07:45 AM Re: Delo and Klondike CK-4 15W40 VOA [Re: zeng]
Solarent Offline


Registered: 10/24/11
Posts: 945
Loc: Toronto ON
Originally Posted By: zeng
Which variant of Delo is this, TBN 7.93 looks very low ?


8 TBN is pretty common for HDDEO. There was a trend several years ago where some companies used boosters to get 10 TBN, but the demand for that has gone down quite a bit.

8 TBN is fine - especially when the oil retains it's TBN over the life of the drain - which Delo does quite well in my experience.

Top
#4581565 - 11/22/17 03:26 AM Re: Delo and Klondike CK-4 15W40 VOA [Re: PiperOne]
Dak27 Offline


Registered: 05/18/10
Posts: 155
Loc: UT. USA
Thanks for posting the VOA's, PiperOne!
I'm currently using Delo 400 SDE 15W40 in my 12.7 liter Detroit Series 60. I have a UOA sample from my last PM service, that I haven't sent to the lab. After this run, which will be in another 8000+ miles, I'm switching over the Delo 400 XLE 10W30, which I use through the coldest months of winter.

I'm not familiar with the Klondike brand, on paper it looks very solid.

Thanks again!

Top
#4581640 - 11/22/17 06:36 AM Re: Delo and Klondike CK-4 15W40 VOA [Re: PiperOne]
userfriendly Offline


Registered: 06/03/03
Posts: 2630
Loc: LaFinDuMonde
Klondike is an engine oil? I thought is was a sled dog.

Top
#4582258 - 11/22/17 07:08 PM Re: Delo and Klondike CK-4 15W40 VOA [Re: userfriendly]
Garak Offline


Registered: 12/05/09
Posts: 24574
Loc: Regina, Saskatchewan, Canada
No, an ice cream bar. wink
_________________________
Plain, simple Garak.

2008 Infiniti G37 - Shell ROTELLA T6 Multi-Vehicle 5w-30, NAPA Gold 7356
1984 F-150 4.9L - Quaker State GB 10w-30, Wix 51515

Top
#4582372 - 11/22/17 08:28 PM Re: Delo and Klondike CK-4 15W40 VOA [Re: Solarent]
zeng Offline


Registered: 09/01/15
Posts: 2188
Loc: Malaysia
Originally Posted By: Solarent
Originally Posted By: zeng
Which variant of Delo is this, TBN 7.93 looks very low ?


8 TBN is pretty common for HDDEO. There was a trend several years ago where some companies used boosters to get 10 TBN, but the demand for that has gone down quite a bit.

8 TBN is fine - especially when the oil retains it's TBN over the life of the drain - which Delo does quite well in my experience.

Yep, you're right as these are CK4/CJ4/E9.
My mindset is still stucked in the era of CI4/E7...

Top
#4582374 - 11/22/17 08:31 PM Re: Delo and Klondike CK-4 15W40 VOA [Re: zeng]
Garak Offline


Registered: 12/05/09
Posts: 24574
Loc: Regina, Saskatchewan, Canada
There still are enough E7, E9 lubes here, at least in the main lines of the big names.
_________________________
Plain, simple Garak.

2008 Infiniti G37 - Shell ROTELLA T6 Multi-Vehicle 5w-30, NAPA Gold 7356
1984 F-150 4.9L - Quaker State GB 10w-30, Wix 51515

Top