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Bob Lutz, "Tesla is ‘Going Out of Business" #4580303
11/20/17 06:39 PM
11/20/17 06:39 PM
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Kendall, FL
wemay Offline OP
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Re: Bob Lutz, "Tesla is ‘Going Out of Business" [Re: wemay] #4580312
11/20/17 06:49 PM
11/20/17 06:49 PM
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I have no vested interest either way in Tesla's success or failure, but to hear this coming from a former GM executive who was "in the midst" of the GM meltdown? Give me a break...


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Re: Bob Lutz, "Tesla is ‘Going Out of Business" [Re: wemay] #4580314
11/20/17 06:52 PM
11/20/17 06:52 PM
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Bremerton, WA
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Habitually wrong government beggar.

Dude hasn't said anything right in 35 years.


Pushrods, please.
Re: Bob Lutz, "Tesla is ‘Going Out of Business" [Re: 2015_PSD] #4580318
11/20/17 07:03 PM
11/20/17 07:03 PM
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Lutz was brought in to improve GM's product offerings and there are a few notable GM products that he brought to production.
He was not one of the financial managers who rode GM into the ground.
He also had a long and distinguished career at Ford, including a number of years in Europe.
His observations of Tesla are no more than the obvious ones, though.
You don't need to be a genius nor even especially astute to observe that an airplane on its back trailing smoke and flame is crashing.


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Re: Bob Lutz, "Tesla is ‘Going Out of Business" [Re: fdcg27] #4580320
11/20/17 07:05 PM
11/20/17 07:05 PM
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Originally Posted By: fdcg27

You don't need to be a genius nor even especially astute to observe that an airplane on its back trailing smoke and flame is crashing.



Quite true.



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Re: Bob Lutz, "Tesla is ‘Going Out of Business" [Re: wemay] #4580329
11/20/17 07:18 PM
11/20/17 07:18 PM
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Time will tell. Truthfully it doesn't matter to me one way or the other what happens to Tesla.


God Bless Our Troops

Re: Bob Lutz, "Tesla is ‘Going Out of Business" [Re: wemay] #4580333
11/20/17 07:21 PM
11/20/17 07:21 PM
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NJ
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If they don't go out of business your grand or great grandkids will question why pop-pop didn't buy Tesla way back when they were just starting out.


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Re: Bob Lutz, "Tesla is ‘Going Out of Business" [Re: wemay] #4580335
11/20/17 07:22 PM
11/20/17 07:22 PM
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Clovis, CA
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What about all the orders for the new semi-truck? How are they going to fill those orders if they're out of business ?

Re: Bob Lutz, "Tesla is ‘Going Out of Business" [Re: wemay] #4580352
11/20/17 07:41 PM
11/20/17 07:41 PM
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I don't know about that. The Tesla developed 2170 battery is exactly what the electric car world needs. It contains no Earth shattering new battery technology. Instead, it's a well refined and up-sized version of the common 18650. Those details matter, immensely. As maximum current flow is doubled, energy capacity is increased by 50% and total cell count is reduced. Much of this is due to simple geometry. As the new 21mm x 70mm case contains 35%-50% more "battery" inside, while being only a few mm's larger outside. Internal heating is reduced, and lifespan is greatly increased.

We'll see.


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Re: Bob Lutz, "Tesla is ‘Going Out of Business" [Re: demarpaint] #4580353
11/20/17 07:42 PM
11/20/17 07:42 PM
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In the shop
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Originally Posted By: demarpaint
Time will tell. Truthfully it doesn't matter to me one way or the other what happens to Tesla.


Amen! Could care less smile


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Re: Bob Lutz, "Tesla is ‘Going Out of Business" [Re: wemay] #4580357
11/20/17 07:44 PM
11/20/17 07:44 PM
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Nowthen, MN
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Tesla just purchased a company here in MN that specializes in manufacturing automation equipment.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.bizjour...perbix.amp.html

Re: Bob Lutz, "Tesla is ‘Going Out of Business" [Re: wemay] #4580359
11/20/17 07:45 PM
11/20/17 07:45 PM
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PENNSYLVANIA
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I hope he's wrong and Tesla can pull through. Not a Tesla shill but would like to own an electric car like ones they offer someday.

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Re: Bob Lutz, "Tesla is ‘Going Out of Business" [Re: wemay] #4580404
11/20/17 08:13 PM
11/20/17 08:13 PM
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Wet side WA
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I'm waiting one the new Tesla 4 place airplane!


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Re: Bob Lutz, "Tesla is ‘Going Out of Business" [Re: wemay] #4580405
11/20/17 08:13 PM
11/20/17 08:13 PM
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In general , I wish companies in business to succeed .

But I have always gotten the impression their cars are WAY out of my price range . And I could care less about their performance / acceleration , I read about .

I know a little bit about electric cars after owing a used Nissan Leaf , until some one rear ended & totaled it .


Wyr
God bless
Re: Bob Lutz, "Tesla is ‘Going Out of Business" [Re: wemay] #4580409
11/20/17 08:15 PM
11/20/17 08:15 PM
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If anyone would know it's a guy that worked for a company that made a business out of going out of business. I don't know... Tesla certainly has its problems but I'm not sure it's time to throw in the towel with them just yet. I wouldn't invest in them either.


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