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Valvoline vo-76 #4568529
11/09/17 06:48 AM
11/09/17 06:48 AM
Joined: Nov 2016
Posts: 22
Ohio
Lignums Offline OP
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Ohio
Buddy of mine has a 2012 malibu that had a service engine code P0013. He had recently went to a valvoline instant oil change before this code came up. This filter and oil had 2000 miles on it. I changed the oil to Castrol Magnatec 5w30 and a fram ultra 9018.
















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2004 Buick Lesabre 3.8
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Re: Valvoline vo-76 [Re: Lignums] #4568633
11/09/17 09:00 AM
11/09/17 09:00 AM
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Waco, TX
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Waco, TX
Stressed........ but not failed


"The evidence demands a verdict".
(Re:VOA)"it's nearly impossible to actually know the particular additives that are in there at what concentrations."
Re: Valvoline vo-76 [Re: Lignums] #4568662
11/09/17 09:23 AM
11/09/17 09:23 AM
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Planet Earth
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Planet Earth
The filter seems to be too long for the application--considering the "crushed" media. I cannot help but wonder how this filter compares to the OEM from an OAL perspective.

Re: Valvoline vo-76 [Re: Lignums] #4568665
11/09/17 09:24 AM
11/09/17 09:24 AM
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Posts: 289
Georgia
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Georgia
Pretty normal for an oil filter in an ecotec engine - the media bends at the half-way point. I see it even on ACDelco filters.


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Re: Valvoline vo-76 [Re: Charlie2015] #4568728
11/09/17 10:18 AM
11/09/17 10:18 AM
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Posts: 7,094
Colorado
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Colorado
Originally Posted By: Charlie2015
Pretty normal for an oil filter in an ecotec engine - the media bends at the half-way point. I see it even on ACDelco filters.


Dang...too bad that "normal" is close to "failed". Makes me wonder what is happening to the filter, and how far it is compressed during normal operation - does it get compressed far enough to effectively be in bypass?


Thick vs Thin test: 15k / 43k miles complete
Re: Valvoline vo-76 [Re: Charlie2015] #4568735
11/09/17 10:24 AM
11/09/17 10:24 AM
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Posts: 4,823
Katy, Republic of Texas
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Katy, Republic of Texas
Originally Posted By: Charlie2015
Pretty normal for an oil filter in an ecotec engine - the media bends at the half-way point. I see it even on ACDelco filters.

I have read the same thing. My mom has a 2.2 (or is it 2.4) ecotec in the 2007 Saturn Vue. So far I have not found any filter deformities in it, but have not done a lot of changes in it either.


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Re: Valvoline vo-76 [Re: Kuato] #4568806
11/09/17 11:32 AM
11/09/17 11:32 AM
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Deplorable in apple valley, ca
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Deplorable in apple valley, ca
Originally Posted By: Kuato
Originally Posted By: Charlie2015
Pretty normal for an oil filter in an ecotec engine - the media bends at the half-way point. I see it even on ACDelco filters.


Dang...too bad that "normal" is close to "failed". Makes me wonder what is happening to the filter, and how far it is compressed during normal operation - does it get compressed far enough to effectively be in bypass?
I believe it expands when it gets wet with oil.


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Re: Valvoline vo-76 [Re: Lignums] #4568829
11/09/17 11:53 AM
11/09/17 11:53 AM
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NC
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NC
My valvoline filter looked way better than this at 5k miles. I had the spin on though.

Re: Valvoline vo-76 [Re: Kuato] #4568922
11/09/17 01:27 PM
11/09/17 01:27 PM
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PNW
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PNW
Originally Posted By: Kuato
Originally Posted By: Charlie2015
Pretty normal for an oil filter in an ecotec engine - the media bends at the half-way point. I see it even on ACDelco filters.


Dang...too bad that "normal" is close to "failed". Makes me wonder what is happening to the filter, and how far it is compressed during normal operation - does it get compressed far enough to effectively be in bypass?

How does the filter compressing like that cause it to go into bypass?

Re: Valvoline vo-76 [Re: Lignums] #4569158
11/09/17 06:34 PM
11/09/17 06:34 PM
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Posts: 122
New England
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New England
Champ made?


'10 Ford E250 4.6L
'11 Ford Fusion 2.5L
Re: Valvoline vo-76 [Re: Peter_480] #4569181
11/09/17 07:05 PM
11/09/17 07:05 PM
Joined: Apr 2015
Posts: 289
Georgia
Charlie2015 Offline
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Posts: 289
Georgia
Valvoline oil and air filters are made by Purolator


1998 Honda Accord EX 2.3L Auto (Sold) 214k mi
2009 Scion tC Manual (Daily Driver) 165k mi
Re: Valvoline vo-76 [Re: Lignums] #4569183
11/09/17 07:09 PM
11/09/17 07:09 PM
Joined: Mar 2008
Posts: 7,349
USA
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USA
Yuck! The Ultra cartridges have some problems, too.

For that Ecotec, ONLY use these filters:
AC Delco PF457G or PF458G (they are made by Hengst)
Hengst E630H
Mann HU 6007x
Purflux L264A

Re: Valvoline vo-76 [Re: Peter_480] #4569241
11/09/17 08:01 PM
11/09/17 08:01 PM
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Posts: 1,521
Houston, Texas
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Houston, Texas
Originally Posted By: Peter_480
Champ made?

In this case, yes. That is a Champlab date code.


2004 Ford Ranger 4.0L V6
Valvoline Advanced Full Synthetic 5W30 + Fram Tough Guard
Re: Valvoline vo-76 [Re: slacktide_bitog] #4569287
11/09/17 08:46 PM
11/09/17 08:46 PM
Joined: Nov 2016
Posts: 22
Ohio
Lignums Offline OP
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Posts: 22
Ohio
Originally Posted By: slacktide_bitog
Yuck! The Ultra cartridges have some problems, too.

For that Ecotec, ONLY use these filters:
AC Delco PF457G or PF458G (they are made by Hengst)
Hengst E630H
Mann HU 6007x
Purflux L264A



Thank you for that info. I will be putting one of those for him in the spring!


1998 Chevy w/t 1500 4.3
2004 Buick Lesabre 3.8
2006 Gmc envoy xl 5.3
Re: Valvoline vo-76 [Re: Lignums] #4569318
11/09/17 09:33 PM
11/09/17 09:33 PM
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Posts: 1,658
Western S.C.
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Western S.C.
Are the filter housing and cap designed such that the filter is under constant axial force from a spring, similar to those for Toyota cartridges? If so, and if it had the right dimensions for the application, it looks like the filter was simply not strong enough to withstand that spring force without collapsing partially.


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