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#4564116 - 11/04/17 04:58 PM Coolant for older cars
Building3 Offline

Registered: 04/30/17
Posts: 72
Loc: Michigan
I have several 1960's and 70's cars in various stages of completion. Engines have been rebuilt, cooling systems totally flushed, etc. I was wondering if I should go to the newer HOAT, or the OAT, or perhaps a universal type coolant/antifreeze rather than putting in the older green technology. Once these cars are done I would like not to change the green coolant every two years that is why the other coolants appeal to me with their 5 year change intervals. None of the cars will be driven much, just to shows and to keep things lubricated. I would say hundreds of miles a year and not thousands. Any opinions would be welcome. Thanks

#4564125 - 11/04/17 05:14 PM Re: Coolant for older cars [Re: Building3]
FlyNavyP3 Offline

Registered: 07/04/16
Posts: 1294
Loc: Jacksonville, FL
I asked the same question. The resounding answers were Deere Guard coolant or Zerex G05. No need to change, use coolant test strips.
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#4564151 - 11/04/17 05:40 PM Re: Coolant for older cars [Re: Building3]
Oro_O Offline

Registered: 09/20/14
Posts: 1338
Loc: Seattle-ish, WA
I looked into the same issue. G-05 is the answer.

#4564234 - 11/04/17 07:15 PM Re: Coolant for older cars [Re: Building3]
Ethan1 Offline

Registered: 12/29/14
Posts: 1620
Loc: 'murica
I've been using Peak Long Life in a 289 Ford for years because I never knew it was a dexclone and, guess what, no problems.

#4564283 - 11/04/17 08:11 PM Re: Coolant for older cars [Re: Building3]
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Registered: 06/05/03
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Do not use an OAT coolant in a copper radiator or heater. It will eat the solder and ruin the radiator. Our warranty is void if OAT is used in a recore or rod out.
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#4564289 - 11/04/17 08:28 PM Re: Coolant for older cars [Re: Building3]
mechjames Offline

Registered: 01/16/08
Posts: 514
Loc: Richmond, BC, Canada
I use green and you can get test strips. It lasts longer than 2 years.
86 Mustang 5.0L 170km - Amsoil XL 5w30 / Baldwin B2-HPG
14 Ram 1500 5.7 - Amsoil XL 5w20 / Baldwin B7443
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#4564312 - 11/04/17 09:06 PM Re: Coolant for older cars [Re: Building3]
69GTX Offline

Registered: 09/23/15
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Loc: Connecticut
Some of the modern green coolants have significantly reduced silicates and/or phosphates, making them not that much different than G05 in that respect.

If you stripped away your former green coolant system chemical protective layers via chemical flushes, it will take much longer to build that protection back up with a low silicate/very low phosphate formula coolant. That's possibly one advantage to sticking with a green coolant that has moderate silicates. If you pick a Zerex G05 for example it has approx 250-300 ppm silicates which will help (and less than 30 ppm phosphates).

Interesting that the Zerex green is also limited to silicates at 250 ppm. I would have thought it had more. No info on the spec sheet on phosphates.

Zerex original Green Coolant

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#4564461 - 11/05/17 03:45 AM Re: Coolant for older cars [Re: Building3]
SR5 Offline

Registered: 07/07/15
Posts: 4204
Loc: Down Under
I've used Zerex G05 in older engines with success, not as old as yours, but still from back in the IAT (inorganic additive technology - silicates, phosphates, etc) days. The G05 is a hybrid coolant, so it contains both inorganic adds (for quick protection) and inorganic acids adds (for long life).

I changed my Zerex G05 every 5 years and everything looked very clean inside the radiator.
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#4564504 - 11/05/17 06:07 AM Re: Coolant for older cars [Re: Building3]
WyrTwister Offline

Registered: 01/13/13
Posts: 1150
Loc: Texas
I have used the old green coolant for years . Our 1991 Caprice has it .

Our 2015 Sonic & 2006 Lacrosse both have DexCool . Will probably stick with DexCool , in them , for now . Both , I dumped 1 gallon and added a gallon of fresh / new DexCool .`

Best of luck to you all , :-)
God bless

#4564523 - 11/05/17 06:35 AM Re: Coolant for older cars [Re: Building3]
DoubleWasp Offline

Registered: 05/21/12
Posts: 5227
Loc: Fort Lauderdale, FL
Rotella ELC. It's an OAT coolant that has an inhibitor package to protect solder, brass, copper, and a variety of mixed metals. No need to hunt it down at a specialty store or dealer. It's at WM and AAP. Also silicate free, like most ELC.

Using this in a lot of old radiators without issue.
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#4564538 - 11/05/17 07:02 AM Re: Coolant for older cars [Re: DoubleWasp]
tc1446 Offline

Registered: 12/10/10
Posts: 916
Loc: Lexington, NC
Just filled my tractor with Rotella ELC 50/50....color is red.
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'00 Ford Ranger 4.0L {65K} M1 & FU
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'07 Kioti CK-30

#4564823 - 11/05/17 12:10 PM Re: Coolant for older cars [Re: Building3]
Building3 Offline

Registered: 04/30/17
Posts: 72
Loc: Michigan
Thank you very much for the quick replies. It sounds like using the older green technology with test strips or the hybrid G05 are both acceptable and easy to find anywhere.

#4565582 - 11/06/17 06:47 AM Re: Coolant for older cars [Re: Building3]
roadrunner1 Offline

Registered: 04/08/09
Posts: 1281
Loc: oh
The Deere CoolGard II is specifically designed for the applications you have described as its good for new tier 4 compliant diesel engines and also good for all of their gas/diesel legacy engines. I currently use it in over 20 engines, varying from a couple '49 Ford flatheads to new marine diesel engines. Its service life is 6 years/6,000 hrs. and can be extended with their additive.
'15 F350 6.7

#4565913 - 11/06/17 01:21 PM Re: Coolant for older cars [Re: Building3]
nthach Offline

Registered: 01/02/04
Posts: 3511
Loc: California
You can still get old school green, Zerex's formula is closer to G-05 but probably doesn't have an organic acid. Many parts stores have the old school green but in low silicate formulation to play nice with SCAs.

#4572375 - 11/13/17 04:42 AM Re: Coolant for older cars [Re: SR5]
SR5 Offline

Registered: 07/07/15
Posts: 4204
Loc: Down Under
Originally Posted By: SR5
The G05 is a hybrid coolant, so it contains both inorganic adds (for quick protection) and Organic acids (for long life).

Fixed typo from above.
Penrite Vantage 10W40 SN & A3/B4 + Wesfil-Cooper Z154

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