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#4533985 - 10/04/17 03:47 PM Mobil1 0w-40 SuperSyn - 10200km / 9 years OCI!
turboseize Offline


Registered: 09/26/14
Posts: 236
Loc: Germany
Dear forum,

yes, I know: the BITOG mantra is "synthetics don't protect better, but they protect longer." A short while ago, a user signed up in a german forum and asked for advice selecting an oil for his next oil change, and also on proper oil change intervals.
The car: a V8 Jaguar. Mostly short-tripped. And driven mostly during winter months.
When he changed his oil, thankfully he supplied us with an UOA:

[img]http://oil-club.de/index.php?attachment/6196-oelcheck-2017-jpg/[/img]

Source:
Mobil1 Protection Formula 0W-40 (SuperSyn) - Jaguar XJR V8 - 4.500 Km / 10.200 Km

Wear metal seem high for the mileage, but with a severely short tripped car, higher wear is to be expected. Astonishing is the state of the oil. We do not see TBN and TAN, but ocidation, nitration and sulfation are quite astonishingly low for a nine-years-and-four-and-a-half-month oil change interval.

PAO rock. Period.


Edited by turboseize (10/04/17 04:01 PM)
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#4534034 - 10/04/17 04:51 PM Re: Mobil1 0w-40 SuperSyn - 10200km / 9 years OCI! [Re: turboseize]
Quattro Pete Offline


Registered: 10/30/02
Posts: 35863
Loc: Great Lakes
Nice! smile
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#4534256 - 10/05/17 01:04 AM Re: Mobil1 0w-40 SuperSyn - 10200km / 9 years OCI! [Re: turboseize]
daves87rs Offline


Registered: 02/23/09
Posts: 16964
Loc: Michigan
Cool!
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#4534261 - 10/05/17 02:03 AM Re: Mobil1 0w-40 SuperSyn - 10200km / 9 years OCI! [Re: turboseize]
Artem Offline


Registered: 10/30/10
Posts: 5117
Loc: Florida
What's more astonishing to me is, here's this awesome Jag. It's madly expensive, and they go 9 years without changing the Lube on it?!

I mean, let's picture this for second...

Ok you go one year, fine, 2, 3 by year 4, it's been freakin 4 YEARS that the oil has been in the engine. Most oil manfactures have the standard 1 year life expectancy rating on the oil. I can't imagine going 5 years on it. 6 years. 7, 8, NINE YEARS ON SAME Engine Oil!!!!!
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#4534313 - 10/05/17 06:21 AM Re: Mobil1 0w-40 SuperSyn - 10200km / 9 years OCI! [Re: turboseize]
dnewton3 Offline



Registered: 05/14/07
Posts: 7391
Loc: Indianapolis, IN
Yet another example that lubes don't know how old they are.

The OEM OCIs are predicated on reducing warranty exposure for the OEM, not maximizing ROI for the owner or reducing environmental resource waste.
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- under maintaining something is akin to abuse/neglect; that can kill equipment by shortening the lifespan
- over maintaining something has never been proven to be anything but a waste of time and money

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#4534320 - 10/05/17 06:40 AM Re: Mobil1 0w-40 SuperSyn - 10200km / 9 years OCI! [Re: turboseize]
Dyusik Offline


Registered: 09/26/14
Posts: 1982
Loc: US-WA
And oh look, shirt trips in cold weather. Thank you for sharing this, hopefully it will disperse some nonsense around here.
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#4534327 - 10/05/17 06:45 AM Re: Mobil1 0w-40 SuperSyn - 10200km / 9 years OCI! [Re: turboseize]
wemay Offline


Registered: 04/04/12
Posts: 8889
Loc: Southeast Florida
I think this is much more, the exception and not the rule. Maybe I've been brainwashed.
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#4534361 - 10/05/17 07:24 AM Re: Mobil1 0w-40 SuperSyn - 10200km / 9 years OCI! [Re: Artem]
SHOZ Offline


Registered: 06/28/03
Posts: 5746
Loc: Illinois
Originally Posted By: Artem
What's more astonishing to me is, here's this awesome Jag. It's madly expensive, and they go 9 years without changing the Lube on it?!

I mean, let's picture this for second...

Ok you go one year, fine, 2, 3 by year 4, it's been freakin 4 YEARS that the oil has been in the engine. Most oil manfactures have the standard 1 year life expectancy rating on the oil. I can't imagine going 5 years on it. 6 years. 7, 8, NINE YEARS ON SAME Engine Oil!!!!!
It's enough to give a BITOG member the vapors.....
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#4534571 - 10/05/17 12:39 PM Re: Mobil1 0w-40 SuperSyn - 10200km / 9 years OCI! [Re: turboseize]
SubieRubyRoo Offline


Registered: 05/14/12
Posts: 1128
Loc: Winchester, Indiana
9 years and 6300 miles... I'm not so much surprised at the 9 years as I am the only 6300 miles during that time. That's 700 miles PER YEAR. I certainly wouldn't pay for plates and insurance for anything used that little.

I think this guy needs his head checked for this, not the fact he went 9 years without changing the oil smile

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#4534795 - 10/05/17 05:41 PM Re: Mobil1 0w-40 SuperSyn - 10200km / 9 years OCI! [Re: SubieRubyRoo]
Kuato Offline


Registered: 10/23/05
Posts: 7094
Loc: Colorado
Originally Posted By: SubieRubyRoo
9 years and 6300 miles... I'm not so much surprised at the 9 years as I am the only 6300 miles during that time. That's 700 miles PER YEAR. I certainly wouldn't pay for plates and insurance for anything used that little.

I think this guy needs his head checked for this, not the fact he went 9 years without changing the oil smile


We here in the US drive a LOT more than most Europeans. I had a debate with a guy from England, he was complaining about how far we drive. I lived in Eastern Montana at the time, and let him know that if I drove 8 hours West, I'd still be in the same state. If he drove 8 hours East from London, he'd be somewhere in Germany or Poland, having crossed several international borders.

It's a matter of scale and our driving distances reflect it; the US (and Australia for that matter) are huge compared to European countries.
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#4534800 - 10/05/17 05:45 PM Re: Mobil1 0w-40 SuperSyn - 10200km / 9 years OCI! [Re: Kuato]
danielLD Offline


Registered: 08/12/17
Posts: 226
Loc: Chicago
Originally Posted By: Kuato
Originally Posted By: SubieRubyRoo
9 years and 6300 miles... I'm not so much surprised at the 9 years as I am the only 6300 miles during that time. That's 700 miles PER YEAR. I certainly wouldn't pay for plates and insurance for anything used that little.

I think this guy needs his head checked for this, not the fact he went 9 years without changing the oil smile


We here in the US drive a LOT more than most Europeans. I had a debate with a guy from England, he was complaining about how far we drive. I lived in Eastern Montana at the time, and let him know that if I drove 8 hours West, I'd still be in the same state. If he drove 8 hours East from London, he'd be somewhere in Germany or Poland, having crossed several international borders.

It's a matter of scale and our driving distances reflect it; the US (and Australia for that matter) are huge compared to European countries.


Yes and in Europe, the roads were built for bicycles and carriages. In the US, most roads were built for cars and trucks.

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#4535431 - 10/06/17 01:56 PM Re: Mobil1 0w-40 SuperSyn - 10200km / 9 years OCI! [Re: Kuato]
Dyusik Offline


Registered: 09/26/14
Posts: 1982
Loc: US-WA
Originally Posted By: Kuato
Originally Posted By: SubieRubyRoo
9 years and 6300 miles... I'm not so much surprised at the 9 years as I am the only 6300 miles during that time. That's 700 miles PER YEAR. I certainly wouldn't pay for plates and insurance for anything used that little.

I think this guy needs his head checked for this, not the fact he went 9 years without changing the oil smile


We here in the US drive a LOT more than most Europeans. I had a debate with a guy from England, he was complaining about how far we drive. I lived in Eastern Montana at the time, and let him know that if I drove 8 hours West, I'd still be in the same state. If he drove 8 hours East from London, he'd be somewhere in Germany or Poland, having crossed several international borders.

It's a matter of scale and our driving distances reflect it; the US (and Australia for that matter) are huge compared to European countries.

Went to visit family in Germany and they did not hesitate to drive 300-500 miles per day for sight seeing and whatnot. My cousin came the same time we did, they opted to drive 1400 miles. The longest road trip I have ever been on living in the US was prompted by an EU citizen. I would not have thought to drive for almost 1200 miles, he didn't even consider train/plane.
Maybe it's just me, but I have a feeling Europeans drive more.


Edited by Dyusik (10/06/17 01:56 PM)
Edit Reason: spelling
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#4536575 - 10/07/17 09:45 PM Re: Mobil1 0w-40 SuperSyn - 10200km / 9 years OCI! [Re: turboseize]
bigt61 Offline


Registered: 02/12/13
Posts: 3117
Loc: Virginia
For cars that aren't driven much, and garage kept, I'm not surprised. Here's my Suburban after a 5yr OCI.

https://bobistheoilguy.com/forums/ubbthr...M1_#Post4190879
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