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Is there interest in a virgin UOA of Mobil1 AP? #4526656
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Has anyone done it yet? Thinking about sending Blackstone 3 samples of 0W20, AFE EP and the new-ish AP that now costs $40 at Walmart.

Is it worth it to get the TBN number too on virgin samples?

Re: Is there interest in a virgin UOA of Mobil1 AP? [Re: drowned12] #4526666
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Check the VOA sub-forum:

https://bobistheoilguy.com/forums/ubbthr...tio#Post4401328


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Re: Is there interest in a virgin UOA of Mobil1 AP? [Re: Quattro Pete] #4526690
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Thanks! I was searching but came up goose eggs.

Re: Is there interest in a virgin UOA of Mobil1 AP? [Re: drowned12] #4526695
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I don't really care for VOA's - - they don't really tell the whole story, just one tiny piece.


"The evidence demands a verdict".
(Re:VOA)"it's nearly impossible to actually know the particular additives that are in there at what concentrations."
Re: Is there interest in a virgin UOA of Mobil1 AP? [Re: Linctex] #4526706
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Sure, they tell one tiny piece, but without that tiny piece, UOAs lose a pile of their utility. There's a reason to get a VOA of a batch before using that oil in a trended analysis.


Plain, simple Garak.

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Re: Is there interest in a virgin UOA of Mobil1 AP? [Re: Garak] #4526713
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Originally Posted By: Garak
Sure, they tell one tiny piece, but without that tiny piece, UOAs lose a pile of their utility. There's a reason to get a VOA of a batch before using that oil in a trended analysis.

Agreed. If someone is doing UOAs, then it's good to have a VOA as a baseline to understand whether certain elements found on a UOA came from the original oil or from the engine.


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Re: Is there interest in a virgin UOA of Mobil1 AP? [Re: Quattro Pete] #4526716
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Yes, not to mention oxidation numbers which get everyone in a tizzy when Red Line is used. wink


Plain, simple Garak.

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Re: Is there interest in a virgin UOA of Mobil1 AP? [Re: Garak] #4526779
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Originally Posted By: Garak
Yes, not to mention oxidation numbers which get everyone in a tizzy when Red Line is used. wink


grin

Asking if anyone is interested jin a VOA on BITOG?

Its like asking a grade school class if they want ice cream?
These threads have to be a troll ?


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Re: Is there interest in a virgin UOA of Mobil1 AP? [Re: drowned12] #4526794
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https://bobistheoilguy.com/forums/ubbthreads.php/topics/4402073/2
... and pay most attention to the NAPA oil analysis, as we think Blackstone had a lot of systematic gross underreporting of elements. Trust the NAPA one first.

Re: Is there interest in a virgin UOA of Mobil1 AP? [Re: oil_film_movies] #4526928
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That, too, is another valid reason for a VOA. If the lab is under-reporting something, at least you have a baseline when you have the VOA for subsequent UOAs.


Plain, simple Garak.

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Re: Is there interest in a virgin UOA of Mobil1 AP? [Re: drowned12] #4527055
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Yes. I would like to see a voa


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Re: Is there interest in a virgin UOA of Mobil1 AP? [Re: Quattro Pete] #4527118
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Originally Posted By: Quattro Pete
Check the VOA sub-forum:

https://bobistheoilguy.com/forums/ubbthr...tio#Post4401328


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There seems to be a disconnect between between the UOA 5-20 AP with Mike718s on page 1 of the UOA section and the 0-20 VOA reported in your link.


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