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Valvoline Updated PDSs #4515097
09/13/17 11:56 AM
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Mathew_Boss Offline OP
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Valvoline Synpower and Synpower Maxlife both have new PDS's as of 7 September 2017. It looks like they are taking a page from castrol PDSs as they are very non-descriptive. Biggest change thats noticeable is the viscosity is ~9% lower than the previous formulation (5W-20) and 0w-16 is now a thing you can get from Valvoline. I find the lack of information a little disappointing compared to their old data sheets. Thoughts?

Valvoline SynPower Maxlife PDS

Valvoline Synpower PDS


125k Mile 11 Dodge Durango 5.7L Hemi PP HM or QSUD 5w20 or 0w20 w/Purolator Boss or Wix XP

40k Mile 2015 Dodge Charger 3.6L Pentastar Pennzoil Platinum or QSUD 0/5W20, or 5W30
Re: Valvoline Updated PDSs [Re: Mathew_Boss] #4515115
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Well that sucks.. looks like MST 5W40, what I use is still the same


2017 Camaro SS 1LE (Motul 8100 X-clean 5W40)
1997 Jeep XJ 4x4 (15W40 HDEO Maxlife)
Re: Valvoline Updated PDSs [Re: Mathew_Boss] #4515122
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These show dexos1 Gen 2 licenses where appropriate, and I think that standard is what drove the timing of these PDS updates (it went live on 9/1).

Valvoline was one of the few companies that gave us NOACK loss information, but that seems to be gone now.


2014 Forester XT, 86000 miles
Last Change;
M1 5W30 d1G2
Tokyo Roki 15208AA170 filter
Re: Valvoline Updated PDSs [Re: Mathew_Boss] #4515134
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I see the CCS & Pour Point data has changed from specific to generic.

TBH, this level of description is nigh on useless. They might as well publish no numbers whatsoever and say 'just trust us, it'll all be okay'.

Shame that they've gone over to The Dark Side when then used to be such a shining light.

Re: Valvoline Updated PDSs [Re: Mathew_Boss] #4515295
09/13/17 03:16 PM
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Yup, these numbers now just say "we meet the spec" with no real data.


2012 Scion xB: QSUD 0w-20/CQ Blue/5k OCI
2002 Ford F150: GTX HM 5w-20/EcoGard Syn/1yr OCI
1994 Honda VT1100: Peak 15w-40/PSL/2500 mile OCI

Re: Valvoline Updated PDSs [Re: Mathew_Boss] #4515512
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Bitog needs to create a forum of shame to spotlight these types of practices


2010 Ford Fusion SE 3.0L V6, 178k miles M1 HM 10w-30
Re: Valvoline Updated PDSs [Re: Mathew_Boss] #4515564
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I'm sure it will do no good, but I complained about the product information sheets through their website.

Re: Valvoline Updated PDSs [Re: Mathew_Boss] #4515618
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PQIA will give us some number as they test these oils ...


Formerly in marine engineering. In an earlier life I owned my own petroleum tank truck, and hauled for the majors and independent's.
Re: Valvoline Updated PDSs [Re: Carbon12] #4516021
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Originally Posted By: Carbon12
I'm sure it will do no good, but I complained about the product information sheets through their website.


I sent them an email also, asking in a nice way they give us at least the same info on the previous PI sheets...Told them i'm a bitog forum reader smile


Pete.
97 Ford Expl.Sport 4.0 ohv 4wd 5spddrive184k miles
Last Change;
Penn. Plat. HM. 5w30
Fram xg8a, Fram CA8141

I like my oil (slippery).

Re: Valvoline Updated PDSs [Re: rollinpete] #4516305
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Originally Posted By: rollinpete
Originally Posted By: Carbon12
I'm sure it will do no good, but I complained about the product information sheets through their website.


I sent them an email also, asking in a nice way they give us at least the same info on the previous PI sheets...Told them i'm a bitog forum reader smile


Good work mate.


Penrite Vantage 10W40 SN & A3/B4 + Wesfil-Cooper Z154
Re: Valvoline Updated PDSs [Re: Mathew_Boss] #4516473
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Here is the reply I got from Valvoline:

Valvoline is in the process of restructuring how our PI Sheets are presented. The goal is to have the same information on all of the PI Sheets for each product. This effort will take some time. Right now the new format is not perfect and we will continue to work to make it better. Thank you for being our customer and please contact us if additional information is ever needed.

Re: Valvoline Updated PDSs [Re: Carbon12] #4516639
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They haven't sent me anything but if and when they do i'll post it...


Pete.
97 Ford Expl.Sport 4.0 ohv 4wd 5spddrive184k miles
Last Change;
Penn. Plat. HM. 5w30
Fram xg8a, Fram CA8141

I like my oil (slippery).


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