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#4514537 - 09/12/17 07:44 PM Changing Motorcycle Tires
maverickfhs Offline


Registered: 12/28/16
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Planning to change motorcycle tires.

Was wondering if anyone has any advice/tips/suggestions? I am planning to use dynabeads or Air BB's for balancing.

Any other tips for valve stems or tricks for putting a new tire on?

Thank you smile
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#4514544 - 09/12/17 07:53 PM Re: Changing Motorcycle Tires [Re: maverickfhs]
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Zip tie method. Get a real balance.
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#4514546 - 09/12/17 07:54 PM Re: Changing Motorcycle Tires [Re: maverickfhs]
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This is a must have tool for me along with 3 tire irons and a stand.

EDIT: I see you are tubeless but I will leave the photo anyway.




Edited by ArcticDriver (09/12/17 07:57 PM)
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#4514547 - 09/12/17 07:55 PM Re: Changing Motorcycle Tires [Re: LotI]
maverickfhs Offline


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Originally Posted By: LotI
Zip tie method. Get a real balance.


Thanks, I have been able to remove one of the old tire without any zip ties.

I don't have any balancer or anything. How do I do it? Use jack stands?
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#4514548 - 09/12/17 07:55 PM Re: Changing Motorcycle Tires [Re: maverickfhs]
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I've personally never replaced a valve stem, with no issues. I also have never used anything to balance the tire, I just align the light spot with the valve stem. I'm mostly commuting in the city though, so I may never notice an imbalance.

I don't have any special equipment, just a set of 3 curved tire irons and a cut apart milk jug as wheel protectors (the curved irons seem to help). Make sure to use plenty of lube, I use diluted dish soap in a spray bottle. If you can, it help to keep the rubber out in the sun to stay warm and flexible. I've broken beads two ways, once in a bench vise, the other with a 2x4 lever contraption attached to an unfinished garage wall. If you haven't already, watch a bunch of youtube videos.

Good luck!

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#4514550 - 09/12/17 07:56 PM Re: Changing Motorcycle Tires [Re: maverickfhs]
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ArcticDriver , is this a rim protector? I was planning to use a rubber hose cut in half for rim protection.
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#4514553 - 09/12/17 07:58 PM Re: Changing Motorcycle Tires [Re: maverickfhs]
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Originally Posted By: maverickfhs
ArcticDriver , is this a rim protector? I was planning to use a rubber hose cut in half for rim protection.


My bad. I see you are tubeless. I edited my post.

Good luck and don't scratch the rims. grin
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#4514555 - 09/12/17 07:59 PM Re: Changing Motorcycle Tires [Re: EdwardC]
maverickfhs Offline


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Originally Posted By: EdwardC
I've personally never replaced a valve stem, with no issues. I also have never used anything to balance the tire, I just align the light spot with the valve stem. I'm mostly commuting in the city though, so I may never notice an imbalance.

I don't have any special equipment, just a set of 3 curved tire irons and a cut apart milk jug as wheel protectors (the curved irons seem to help). Make sure to use plenty of lube, I use diluted dish soap in a spray bottle. If you can, it help to keep the rubber out in the sun to stay warm and flexible. I've broken beads two ways, once in a bench vise, the other with a 2x4 lever contraption attached to an unfinished garage wall. If you haven't already, watch a bunch of youtube videos.

Good luck!


Thanks very much. Very helpful. Yes, I have placed the tires in my car. Tomorrow it'll be in 80's and it'll be warm and toasty so they'll be flexible and soft by end of tomorrow.

Are you saying you have never replaced valve stems? I have a HF bead breaker tool and have been able to remove the front. Now just rear is pending in terms of old tires removal.

What do you use for rim protection?
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#4514557 - 09/12/17 08:01 PM Re: Changing Motorcycle Tires [Re: ArcticDriver]
maverickfhs Offline


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Originally Posted By: ArcticDriver
Originally Posted By: maverickfhs
ArcticDriver , is this a rim protector? I was planning to use a rubber hose cut in half for rim protection.


My bad. I see you are tubeless. I edited my post.

Good luck and don't scratch the rims. grin


I have been lucky and didn't scratch the rim, but planning to use a rubber hose or a used milk bottle plastic for rim protectors.

I used Old English oil furniture polish, as a lubricant.
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#4514566 - 09/12/17 08:05 PM Re: Changing Motorcycle Tires [Re: maverickfhs]
EdwardC Offline


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I use strips of plastic cut from a milk jug. It's a little but of a hassle to keep aligned and in place, but it has worked for me. It would probably be useful to poke a hole and tie some string on it so you don't have to go fishing in the tire to find it.

Yeah, in the 3 tubeless tires I've replaced tires on, they held air just fine prior to replacement, so I didn't bother replacing the valve stem, I know it's not a hard thing to do, just didn't do it for some reason. Maybe not the smartest thing to do, but no issue so far. (Maybe I'll replace them next time I do the tires)

Also, be careful of any sprockets or brake rotors that may be attached to the wheel. A couple pieces of 2x4 under the wheel to elevate the rotor is good.

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#4514571 - 09/12/17 08:09 PM Re: Changing Motorcycle Tires [Re: EdwardC]
maverickfhs Offline


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Originally Posted By: EdwardC
I use strips of plastic cut from a milk jug. It's a little but of a hassle to keep aligned and in place, but it has worked for me. It would probably be useful to poke a hole and tie some string on it so you don't have to go fishing in the tire to find it.

Yeah, in the 3 tubeless tires I've replaced tires on, they held air just fine prior to replacement, so I didn't bother replacing the valve stem, I know it's not a hard thing to do, just didn't do it for some reason. Maybe not the smartest thing to do, but no issue so far. (Maybe I'll replace them next time I do the tires)

Also, be careful of any sprockets or brake rotors that may be attached to the wheel. A couple pieces of 2x4 under the wheel to elevate the rotor is good.


Thanks, I used a big empty cardboard box and some rags - placed rotor on it so it was not touching or rubbing with anything. Planning to do similar for the rear side.

Good idea for poking a hole inside those milk crate chunks. I'll cut some rubber hose too.

Also, my existing wheels have balancing weight on it. Should I remove all of them completely?
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#4514626 - 09/12/17 09:15 PM Re: Changing Motorcycle Tires [Re: maverickfhs]
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Pretty easy to bend a rotor if you leave them on the wheel while you are levering tires off and on rims.
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#4514644 - 09/12/17 09:34 PM Re: Changing Motorcycle Tires [Re: maverickfhs]
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I usually use a 5 gallon bucket for a stand. The rotor goes in the bucket to keep it from getting damaged.

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#4514650 - 09/12/17 09:38 PM Re: Changing Motorcycle Tires [Re: maverickfhs]
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Registered: 07/15/09
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Loc: New Mexico USA
If it's tubeless, this is really a pretty easy job. Two tricks --

1) If you can't find commercial tire lube, use diluted Murphy's Oil Soap. It works great. This is fairly important. Murphy's Oil Soap is recommended by major tire manufacturers as being chemically compatible, that is, it won't hurt the rubber on your tires.

Some number of people are sure to point out that they have used dish soap, mechanic's hand cleaner, KY Jelly, spit, and everything else in the world that is slippery and it has never hurt their tire. They think. Absence of evidence is not evidence of absence.

I've been working on bikes over 40 years, have run service departments in motorcycle shops, and changed more tires than I can count. On today's high performance bikes it's good to take the extra measure of care.

2) If you fit the tire bead into the well of the rim, lube everything up carefully, keep both beads in the well as you work the last bead over the far side, this is not difficult. I have removed [censored] bike tires with no tire irons at all and fitted tires back on to the rim with one iron and no damage to the rim. It's just care, practice, and repetition. Keeping the bead in the well on most tires gives you plenty to work with except for Harley Davidson style bead retention rims.

One more tip -- clean the inside of the rim where the tire seats very gently, carefully, and thoroughly. Lube it well, be careful inflating to set the bead. Don't over-inflate, if it doesn't set at 45 pounds or less, something is wrong, don't force it. If you have trouble getting the tire to "grab" when you are trying to inflate it, wrap a ratchet-type motorcycle tie down around the circumference of the tire, snug it up just enough to force the bead out to the rim, get it started with just a few pounds of air, take the strap off, and finish inflating.

Don't let anyone talk you into using ether. grin

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#4514675 - 09/12/17 10:21 PM Re: Changing Motorcycle Tires [Re: CCI]
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Registered: 10/08/11
Posts: 2906
Loc: Chicago, IL
Originally Posted By: CCI
If it's tubeless, this is really a pretty easy job. Two tricks --

1) If you can't find commercial tire lube, use diluted Murphy's Oil Soap. It works great. This is fairly important. Murphy's Oil Soap is recommended by major tire manufacturers as being chemically compatible, that is, it won't hurt the rubber on your tires.

Some number of people are sure to point out that they have used dish soap, mechanic's hand cleaner, KY Jelly, spit, and everything else in the world that is slippery and it has never hurt their tire. They think. Absence of evidence is not evidence of absence.

I've been working on bikes over 40 years, have run service departments in motorcycle shops, and changed more tires than I can count. On today's high performance bikes it's good to take the extra measure of care.

2) If you fit the tire bead into the well of the rim, lube everything up carefully, keep both beads in the well as you work the last bead over the far side, this is not difficult. I have removed [censored] bike tires with no tire irons at all and fitted tires back on to the rim with one iron and no damage to the rim. It's just care, practice, and repetition. Keeping the bead in the well on most tires gives you plenty to work with except for Harley Davidson style bead retention rims.

One more tip -- clean the inside of the rim where the tire seats very gently, carefully, and thoroughly. Lube it well, be careful inflating to set the bead. Don't over-inflate, if it doesn't set at 45 pounds or less, something is wrong, don't force it. If you have trouble getting the tire to "grab" when you are trying to inflate it, wrap a ratchet-type motorcycle tie down around the circumference of the tire, snug it up just enough to force the bead out to the rim, get it started with just a few pounds of air, take the strap off, and finish inflating.

Don't let anyone talk you into using ether. grin

Yup all good advice here.
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