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Best Protection & Easiest for Black? #4506819
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2009 GM vehicle in black.
Will see all four seasons, from sizzling sun to salt-laden roads, rarely garaged, minimal washing.
Assuming I properly prep (clay bar), which wax or sealant will give me the longest protection with smallest effort...while I don't care about the depth of shine on this black, I also don't want to have to fight getting the wax to buff off and leave no smears/cloudy on the black.
I want protection and longevity without sore arms.
I'll be applying/removing by hand....no machine.
Not the absolute prettiest on black, but longest protection??

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Can't go wrong with Meguiar's Ultimate Liquid Wax. Goes on smooth and comes off easy.


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Re: Best Protection & Easiest for Black? [Re: rooflessVW] #4506834
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Thanks, I'll look it up.

Re: Best Protection & Easiest for Black? [Re: rooflessVW] #4506905
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Originally Posted By: rooflessVW
Can't go wrong with Meguiar's Ultimate Liquid Wax. Goes on smooth and comes off easy.
This^^^^

Re: Best Protection & Easiest for Black? [Re: lukejo] #4507047
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I agree also, Ultimate is best, esp for black vehicles, will give u the clarity deep shine(even tho its not priority) but also last a super long time.


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Re: Best Protection & Easiest for Black? [Re: rooflessVW] #4507092
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Originally Posted By: rooflessVW
Can't go wrong with Meguiar's Ultimate Liquid Wax. Goes on smooth and comes off easy.


^^^^^^ I was about to say the same thing.

Don't bother with special "black" waxes. They are just for looks and can give a deeper wet look but generally don't last long (like 1 month)

If you're looking for a wax that will last all year with one application..... don't know of one.

I would say get the MEGUIARS ultimate liquid/paste wax and do it twice a year and get the ultimate spray wax for in between. Spray wax is easy and will extend the protection of an already applied layer of wax. It is not a replacement for liquid or paste wax though.

Re: Best Protection & Easiest for Black? [Re: lukejo] #4507108
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The issue with black is the potential for marring and swirls from any touching it.

So first, set up a good bucket system. At least one 5 gal bucket with a grit guard, if not a two bucket system. Also a foaming gun is not a bad idea to make sure the surface is well lubricated.

I like the idea of minimizing the touches on a black car. Therefore I use CQuartz once, and then use HydrO2 on it as a maintenance, which minimizes the number of buffing and application sessions, while adding extra protection.

Re: Best Protection & Easiest for Black? [Re: JHZR2] #4508525
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Is the MULW one that is enhanced (protection) with more than one application? Or do synthetic protectants not work that way?

Re: Best Protection & Easiest for Black? [Re: lukejo] #4508763
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If longevity is the concern you should NOT be going for a wax, rather a paint sealant like Menzerna/Jescar Power Lock (ideally a ceramic coating but that's a whole other ball of wax). Particularly on black cars, wax does not stand up well to the heat of the sun on the finish; even if it looks good for a while on nice days you're not going to make through a season's worth of bad weather, let alone a year.

For reference, I have two black cars that I agonize over (labor of love I guess). I use wax on the BMW for shine but it only lasts about 2 months at a high level of gloss and water beading. I use Power Lock on the MDX every six months. It lasts long enough that I went to a 12 month interval this year.


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Re: Best Protection & Easiest for Black? [Re: lukejo] #4508766
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Originally Posted By: lukejo
Is the MULW one that is enhanced (protection) with more than one application? Or do synthetic protectants not work that way?

I do one coat in the evening, then another in the morning ~12hrs later without wiping off the first.

This ensures an even application more than enhanced protection.


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Re: Best Protection & Easiest for Black? [Re: lukejo] #4513218
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This. This is the best. It's fairly cheap. Nothing is better.

https://www.amazon.com/Finish-Kare-BWM-1000-Hi-Temp-Paste/dp/B002NZL6M6


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Re: Best Protection & Easiest for Black? [Re: lukejo] #4514631
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What about Wolfgang 3.0 Sealant? Sounds easy application and lasting results? Superior to Meguires Ultimate?

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The Wolfgang gets very good reviews and is a safe bet, I'd guess it's marginally better than anything Meguiar's has in terms of a sealant.


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Re: Best Protection & Easiest for Black? [Re: lukejo] #4515688
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You know, I got real big into the high-end car care stuff there for a while and honestly, I've come full circle. You don't need to look farther than Meguiar's for a good balance of price and protection.

I'm still a big fan of Griots Garage as well. All of their products do what it says on the tin at a reasonable price.

You can of course do better, but in my opinion you quickly reach the realm of diminishing returns on your dollar.


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Re: Best Protection & Easiest for Black? [Re: lukejo] #4516268
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I'm of a somewhat similar mind. I still tend to go after higher end polishes and LSPs (and support the OP going for Wolfgang) but for the basics I have come to find it was a complete waste of money going after expensive car wash soap, for example, when Meguiar's D111 does identically well for half the cost.


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