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M1 0W40 in a Civic? #4503064
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Recently got rid of the mercedes and now have at least 5 gallons of M1 0W40 laying around.

Was wondering, can I use them in any of my Civics, calling for 5W20 or 0W20?

If so, does anyone know a link for any OCI analysis report? Thanks for all the input and help.

P.S: Would it cause any harm or no issues?


2006 Civic EX 202K/AT
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Re: M1 0W40 in a Civic? [Re: maverickfhs] #4503069
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Sure. Blend it so its a little thinner.


06 Escalade 6.0L LQ9 AWD 165k M1 0w40
03 Maxima 3.5L POS 152k ST HM 10w30
Re: M1 0W40 in a Civic? [Re: maverickfhs] #4503081
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I would go ahead and use it. I have it in all my cars and trucks, including the Ranger which specs 5w-20.


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2006 Dakota 4.7 156,000 mi
1986 GL1200A 73,500 mi
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Re: M1 0W40 in a Civic? [Re: LeakySeals] #4503092
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Originally Posted By: LeakySeals
Sure. Blend it so its a little thinner.


Blend it with 0W20 or 5W20?


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Re: M1 0W40 in a Civic? [Re: maverickfhs] #4503096
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If VVT no, VTEC yes. VVT & VTEC NO.

Sounds too tic toe ...

Most hydraulic VVT needs a viscosity sweet spot not far from OE spec oil grade.


2014 Nissan Rogue S CVT, OC#10 47272mi-QSUD10W30+5w20 Toughguard Filter; '17 Subaru Crosstrek CVT OC#2 ?? mi-SOA/Idemitsu 0w20 + SOA Filter
Re: M1 0W40 in a Civic? [Re: maverickfhs] #4503098
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It's a 2006 Civic EX, 2003 Civic LX and 2008 Civic LX, all with AT.


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Re: M1 0W40 in a Civic? [Re: maverickfhs] #4503122
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Originally Posted By: maverickfhs
It's a 2006 Civic EX, 2003 Civic LX and 2008 Civic LX, all with AT.


Europeans, Russians were running 5W-40 in those since new.


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Re: M1 0W40 in a Civic? [Re: maverickfhs] #4503127
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You can use it straight. No problem. It basically a 30 weight oil anyhow.

If you want to mix it with a M1 20 weight go ahead. I'd mix in M1 5w20 HM....


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2010 Accord-LX K24: MaxLife 5w30 + Torco MPZ
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Re: M1 0W40 in a Civic? [Re: maverickfhs] #4503133
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Originally Posted By: maverickfhs
It's a 2006 Civic EX, 2003 Civic LX and 2008 Civic LX, all with AT.


No problems at all. I'd use it in the warmer months and 0W-20 in the cold...

Re: M1 0W40 in a Civic? [Re: maverickfhs] #4503138
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Originally Posted By: maverickfhs
P.S: Would it cause any harm or no issues?

Possibly a slight hit on fuel economy due to high HT/HS viscosity, but otherwise no harm, IMO.


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'15 Q5 3.0T (Edge 5W-40)
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Re: M1 0W40 in a Civic? [Re: maverickfhs] #4503158
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Originally Posted By: maverickfhs
Originally Posted By: LeakySeals
Sure. Blend it so its a little thinner.


Blend it with 0W20 or 5W20?



You can technically mix M1 0w-40 and the 20/30 grades but they have completely different add packages. The M1 0w-40 has very high calcium (2800-3000 ppm)/no magnesium. The lower grades are very low calcium (1160 ppm) (about 40% of 0w-40) and strong magnesium (700 ppm). If anything, I'd be more comfortable mixing the M1 0w-40 with other high calcium/no mg oils like PP, QSUD, and Castrol Edge 20/30 grades. Though in the end, your engine just might not care.



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1999 Camaro SS M6 /19K /Mobil 1 0w40 /Fram UG /GM MTL-ATF
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Re: M1 0W40 in a Civic? [Re: maverickfhs] #4503177
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I would run it year round as is!


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Re: M1 0W40 in a Civic? [Re: maverickfhs] #4503179
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You'll never be able to tell a difference in those Honda engines. I have three and they get whatever is in the stash at the time. I've never ran a XX-40 in them but if that's what I had, I wouldn't hesitate.


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Re: M1 0W40 in a Civic? [Re: ARCOgraphite] #4503186
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Originally Posted By: ARCOgraphite
If VVT no, VTEC yes. VVT & VTEC NO.

Sounds too tic toe ...

Most hydraulic VVT needs a viscosity sweet spot not far from OE spec oil grade.


These engines in other parts of the world spec 0w30 or 0w40 with those systems, I guess those systems don't work properly and yes its the same engine. I wish people would stop spinning this absolute falsehood, these engines were not designed to run on xw20 they were designed to run on a wide range of viscosities and can run on xw20 for fuel economy reasons, there is no "sweet spot" in fact many Honda xw20 engines with these systems eg J35 ivtec/VCM show remarkably good UOA's on 0w40.

OP run the 0w40 and forget it, its fine.


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Re: M1 0W40 in a Civic? [Re: maverickfhs] #4503193
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After confirmation from many senior and well respected members on the forum, I am all set to use 0W40, thanks all smile


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