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Viscosity #4489672
08/15/17 07:14 PM
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I have a 2016 F-150 2.7 Ecoboost. I had the oil changed at the dealer at about 1850 miles. It was supposed to be 5W-30 Motorcraft Syn Blend. 150 miles later, I sucked out two quarts and put in two quarts of M1 HM 5W-30. At the 991 mile mark, I changed the oil for my road trip, and sent this sample off to Blackstone from the 991 mile oil. What do you all think about the viscosity reading?

It will only let me upload a jpeg, not pdf. Let me convert. In the meantime,
here is what I am talking about

SUS viscosity @ 210 F 51.5 should be 56-63
CIS Viscosity @ 100 C 7.62 should be 9.1-11.3

Last edited by bigj_16; 08/15/17 07:27 PM.
Re: Viscosity [Re: bigj_16] #4489679
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What viscosity reading?


2015 Hyundai Sonata 2.4L 89k Motorcraft Synthetic Blend 5w30 & OEM
2000 Toyota Camry 2.2L 231k Valvoline 5w30 & Fram Ultra
1996 Jeep Cherokee 4.0L 147k Mobil 1 HM 10w40 & Fram Ultra
Re: Viscosity [Re: bigj_16] #4489684
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You need to upload the photo. You've tried to link to your local HD and that won't work

Click the button with the blue up arrow. Fifth from the left above the reply box


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Re: Viscosity [Re: bigj_16] #4489689
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Why?


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Re: Viscosity [Re: bigj_16] #4489706
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For Starters...You probably should have ran the Motorcraft oil for 5k and then sent it in for an analysis.

Re: Viscosity [Re: bigj_16] #4489707
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Here we go.

Re: Viscosity [Re: Warstud] #4489710
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Originally Posted By: Warstud
For Starters...You probably should have ran the Motorcraft oil for 5k and then sent it in for an analysis.
I was looking specifically for fuel dilution.

Re: Viscosity [Re: bigj_16] #4489735
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Did [censored] really test for fuel?


Scambling for solutions is a hopelessly futile endeavour and potentially dangerous, without first coming to a solid, personal understanding of the problem. Beware riding the ideological hobby horse.
Re: Viscosity [Re: bigj_16] #4489795
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Looks like most of my UOA' s of MC 5w30. It shears a good bit, but the samples look good otherwise.

Re: Viscosity [Re: Nederlander75] #4489800
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Originally Posted By: Nederlander75
Looks like most of my UOA' s of MC 5w30. It shears a good bit, but the samples look good otherwise.

What engine is yours in?

Re: Viscosity [Re: bigj_16] #4489803
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7.62 is too low, you're right.
Maybe a little fuel dilution, and maybe Ford put 5w20 in it as the factory fill. New engines appear to shear the VII chemicals more.

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I've run it in a Mazda MZR, RENESIS, Ecoboost 2.3L and 1.6L, a 5.4L, 3.5VQ, Kia 2.0L, and a Subaru FA20. Only when tested after track use was the viscosity above 8. Again, wear metals appear unaffected.

Re: Viscosity [Re: bigj_16] #4489920
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I suspect that you got xW20 oil at the dealer, I seriously doubt you would have sheared or diluted that much with a 5W30 in so few miles!


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Re: Viscosity [Re: Virtus_Probi] #4490006
08/16/17 08:43 AM
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Originally Posted By: Virtus_Probi
I suspect that you got xW20 oil at the dealer, I seriously doubt you would have sheared or diluted that much with a 5W30 in so few miles!
Yes, that it what I was thinking, also. Considering it is actually only 2/3 Motorcraft(1/3 M1 HM). I had my wife's truck done at the same dealer within a couple of days of that, and I am changing the oil this week, so I am sending a sample on that out.

Re: Viscosity [Re: bigj_16] #4490290
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You have a turbo, there is a ton of stuff out there what Ford is doing with eco boost and oil. How in the world can it be 7? You engine shreaded that oil, lol. I would move over to ester based oils and stay at 5w30 if it was me. You are real smart for doing uoa's on your eco boost. Manufacturers have been appeasing the gov't with this CAFE blcrp, and that is the only reason they even would think about putting 5w20 is a twin turbo. Ram changed their oil spec for their eco diesels, Ford is spitting on new oil specs all around, you need the most hearty oil you can find, or it will not be a long lived vehicle. 7's viscosity is ridiculous, my first thought it was tranny oil, but the additive package says different, that likely was 5w20 oil your engine shreaded. Get some redline in that puppy.

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