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What coolant to use on a 2002 Lincoln 4.6L DOHC #4480502
08/06/17 07:51 AM
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2 years is now up on my last coolant change which was last done due to a radiator replacement. I just assumed the car took the old "green" stuff. Now I'm not so sure. The fluid looks more lighter green or yellow like an AMAM universal coolant. It could be the Ford/Zerex G05 stuff. The last 2 coolant change invoices only listed "anti-freeze." Spent a couple hours last night just reading up on things. Best I can come up with is that Ford used green up through 2002....then G05 (HOAT) ever since.

I want to use the optimum fluid for this car. It's too bad I wasn't up to speed on what was used before. Whatever had been used seems to have done the job. Can't even be sure that the few flushes/drains were done with the same coolants (IAT, OAT, HOAT). For the past year I've been using Prestone AMAM Dexclone (OAT) for several cups of topping off....though completely unaware that this stuff wasn't just the old IAT/green stuff....and that "universal" now means DEXCOOL "lite." My Chevy has used GM DexCool since day 1...and has worked fine. At least those bottles said DEXCOOL right on them.

What to use now going forward?


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2001 Lincoln Cont 4.6L DOHC/ 39K mi / QS HM 5w30 / FUG XG2
1999 Camaro SS M6 /19K /Mobil 1 0w40 /Fram UG /GM MTL-ATF
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Re: What coolant to use on a 2002 Lincoln 4.6L DOHC [Re: 69GTX] #4480504
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If you can find it, use Peak Global Lifetime full strength and dilute it yourself. It's a non 2-EH formula that is phosphate-free and silicate-free.


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Re: What coolant to use on a 2002 Lincoln 4.6L DOHC [Re: 69GTX] #4480514
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http://www.oemantifreeze.com/

Find your match with EasyMatch.

Check prices on Ebay sold by Pepboys.


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Re: What coolant to use on a 2002 Lincoln 4.6L DOHC [Re: 69GTX] #4480523
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This will clear things up. lol

maybe not


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Re: What coolant to use on a 2002 Lincoln 4.6L DOHC [Re: 69GTX] #4480534
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Looks like 2002 was the transition from the green to gold. Going to have to check the manufactured date of the car.

The OEM gold does meet Ford WSS-M97B51-A1.

Searched Pepboys Ebay store, and they don't have it listed. Zerex GO5 would work too if it takes the gold.


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Re: What coolant to use on a 2002 Lincoln 4.6L DOHC [Re: 69GTX] #4480535
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Flush and use G-05 regardless of what was in there from the factory.


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Re: What coolant to use on a 2002 Lincoln 4.6L DOHC [Re: 69GTX] #4480539
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The 2002 Lincoln takes the old fashioned Green Coolant.
There is even a sticker on the tank, or there should be warning you not to put in the yellow. Green Only.



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Re: What coolant to use on a 2002 Lincoln 4.6L DOHC [Re: 69GTX] #4480563
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Thanks for those links and charts. 7/15/02 seems to be the demarcation line which would cover nearly all of the 2002's built. Checked my VIN against the Ford ETIS site and was a very early build on 7/30/2001...one of the first 1,000 Lincoln's built that year. So apparently it originally came with the Green stuff. I sort of agree with Donald that going to a more system friendly G05 makes sense.


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Re: What coolant to use on a 2002 Lincoln 4.6L DOHC [Re: Panzerman] #4480573
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Originally Posted By: Panzerman
The 2002 Lincoln takes the old fashioned Green Coolant.
There is even a sticker on the tank, or there should be warning you not to put in the yellow. Green Only.


I was confused by the Owner's Manual where it listed 2 separate coolants that "could" be in the car from the factory (green and yellow). But in checking the decal on the coolant reservoir the only US spec listed is the green (ESE-M97B44-A). And the green fits with my build date and chart Simple_gifts posted. It conflicts with the Easy Match car care link by BigD1 which states to use Ford Yellow (5yr/150K mile) extended life coolant. On the reservoir sticker (and owner's manual) are warnings not to add "orange" coolant (full DexCool) or it can leaded to degraded engine protection (which I assume means once mixed, you only get the shortest life of the two coolants). Panzerman is right on it.

Still, very confusing to me that DexCool comes in other colors than orange. And that universal coolants are now DexCool "lite" clones.

Thanks to all.


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1999 Camaro SS M6 /19K /Mobil 1 0w40 /Fram UG /GM MTL-ATF
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Re: What coolant to use on a 2002 Lincoln 4.6L DOHC [Re: 69GTX] #4480574
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Trust me, you CANNOT go wrong with Premium Gold G-05-I've retrofitted several vehicles to it, my old '82 300D (and ran it for 8 years with no issues except occasional topoffs), and the '93 GMC diesel C3500 in my sig. Just drain & refill every 5 years or so with distilled. Look for this sticker on the expansion tank-


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Re: What coolant to use on a 2002 Lincoln 4.6L DOHC [Re: 69GTX] #4480575
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My expansion tank only has the "no orange" warning. Nothing on there about OK (or not OK) to fill with "yellow." Just a single "no orange" sticker. And of course confusing as all heck that the universal coolants are now both yellow/green looking. I would suspect the G05 coolant would be ok in my car. For all I know, it has been used before. I have no idea what's in it now. Best to start fresh.


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2001 Lincoln Cont 4.6L DOHC/ 39K mi / QS HM 5w30 / FUG XG2
1999 Camaro SS M6 /19K /Mobil 1 0w40 /Fram UG /GM MTL-ATF
1969 Ply GTX/RRs
Re: What coolant to use on a 2002 Lincoln 4.6L DOHC [Re: 69GTX] #4480578
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Originally Posted By: 69GTX
Originally Posted By: Panzerman
The 2002 Lincoln takes the old fashioned Green Coolant.
There is even a sticker on the tank, or there should be warning you not to put in the yellow. Green Only.


I was confused by the Owner's Manual where it listed 2 separate coolants that could be in the car (green and yellow). But in checking the decal on the coolant reservoir the only US spec listed is the green (ESE-M97B44-A). And the green fits with my build date and chart Simple_gifts posted. It conflicts with the car care link by BigD1 which states to use Ford Yellow (5yr/150K mile) extended life coolant. On the reservoir sticker (and owner's manual) are warnings not to add "orange" coolant (full DexCool) or it can leaded to degraded engine protection (which I assume means once mixed, you only get the shortest life of the two coolants). Panzerman is right on it.

Still, very confusing to me that DexCool comes in other colors than orange. And that universal coolants are now DexCool.

Thanks to all.
Also DO NOT USE THE ORANGE! My brother had a '99 Taurus 3.0 that somebody put orange in with the original green, he fought with a plugged heater core & radiator for a while. The "universal" Dexclones like Prestone AMAM, Peak Long Life, etc. won't cause a problem, but the orange ones like Havoline will.


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Re: What coolant to use on a 2002 Lincoln 4.6L DOHC [Re: 69GTX] #4480582
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Originally Posted By: 69GTX
My expansion tank only has the "no orange" warning. Nothing on there about OK to fill with "yellow." And of course confusing as all heck that the universal coolants are now both yellow/green looking. I would suspect the G05 coolant would be ok in my car. For all I know, it has been used before. I have no idea what's in it now. Best to start fresh.
The chart posted above has "GY" on it, which means either one can be used. The good news is, G-05/Premium Gold and green work well together, the block drain on my '93 6.2 was under a motor mount, so I never drained the block when I changed to Gold-but it didn't hurt a thing.


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Re: What coolant to use on a 2002 Lincoln 4.6L DOHC [Re: 69GTX] #4480584
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I knew not to go orange since my other car is full DexCool orange. And there were lots of warnings I read about when mixing "other" stuff with orange DexCool. But had no clue until yesterday that the new "universals" were a semi-DexCool with 2 EHA. And I thought engine oils and trans fluids were challenging...lol.

So would I be correct to assume that mixing original green, G05 yellow, and the universal AMAM DexCool lites shouldn't pose a problem or make sludge? It's the only the orange and other odd concoctions (blue, red, purple, etc.) that cause big problems when mixed?


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1999 Camaro SS M6 /19K /Mobil 1 0w40 /Fram UG /GM MTL-ATF
1969 Ply GTX/RRs
Re: What coolant to use on a 2002 Lincoln 4.6L DOHC [Re: 69GTX] #4480603
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I have the same engine as you in my Aviator- it uses the Motorcraft Premium Gold/G05 antifreeze.

Really, most coolants will work fine as long as they're not mixed.


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2000 Honda Accord 2.3
2001 Hyundai Elantra 2.0
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