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#4468425 - 07/23/17 09:20 PM Motive power bleeder?
buck91 Offline


Registered: 04/17/12
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Loc: West Michigan
So I've been looking at these Motiv "power bleeders" for some time now. Seems I have to twist arms something fierce to get extra help bleeding brakes and I never feel like I get to spend enough time doing it. Plus, looking at the price of speed bleeders, just doing one car would come close to the cost of the motiv. Specifically my fleet currently includes '11 and '05 F150, '96 Mustang, '14 Explorer and one lone Nissan Rogue which sees the dealer for repairs. Of course, these change periodically so there is that.

Anyways, talking with Motiv they note that the 0107 should work with most of this list, though a few reviewers note otherwise. Has anybody used the Motiv Power Bleeder? Good stuff or are there better options? I don't want to break the bank but I would like something effective and that will last more than a job or two.

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#4468443 - 07/23/17 09:32 PM Re: Motive power bleeder? [Re: buck91]
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Registered: 09/25/04
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Save your money. All you need to do a one person bleed, is 3 feet of clear tubing and a little jar 1/2 full of brake fluid to make an air lock. You want a snug fit on the bleeder. Open the bleeder and pump the pedal by hand. Keep an eye on the reservoir level.
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#4468460 - 07/23/17 09:44 PM Re: Motive power bleeder? [Re: andyd]
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Registered: 08/15/06
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Originally Posted By: andyd
Save your money. All you need to do a one person bleed, is 3 feet of clear tubing and a little jar 1/2 full of brake fluid to make an air lock. You want a snug fit on the bleeder. Open the bleeder and pump the pedal by hand. Keep an eye on the reservoir level.

Never in my life have I had tubing stay on a bleeder unless I physically hold it in place.
I love using the motive. Twist it onto the res, pump it up and I usually just crack the bleeder and let it whiz where it will, hopefully hitting a oil drain pan.
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#4468470 - 07/23/17 09:57 PM Re: Motive power bleeder? [Re: buck91]
MrHorspwer Offline


Registered: 12/18/06
Posts: 1423
Loc: Michigan
I have a Motive bleeder and absolutely love it. I've owned it for at least a decade, primarily for cars that see HPDE/auto-x use. I tend to flush every year, sometimes more than once. Full flush with a solid pedal every time, no mishaps, and it's quicker than anything around.

Flushing out my Camaro earlier this year before it's first auto-x:


I'm not a big fan of pricey single-purpose tools, but:

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#4468475 - 07/23/17 10:08 PM Re: Motive power bleeder? [Re: buck91]
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LOL nice meme.
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#4468476 - 07/23/17 10:14 PM Re: Motive power bleeder? [Re: buck91]
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Registered: 12/15/06
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Loc: Milwaukee, WI.
I have used the Phoenix "reverse" bleeder for a number of years. 1 man operation, and the hose has always stays on the bleeder nipple for me.
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#4468478 - 07/23/17 10:23 PM Re: Motive power bleeder? [Re: buck91]
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Registered: 08/05/04
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Loc: 5600 feet elevation, Arizona
On top of a motive bleeder I have a Griots Garage "sucker style " bleeder that pulls the fluid out at the wheel cylinder / caliper. Works well .
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#4468508 - 07/23/17 11:03 PM Re: Motive power bleeder? [Re: buck91]
ArcticDriver Offline


Registered: 01/27/17
Posts: 1139
Loc: USA
I prefer a device that pressurizes and pushes fluid through rather than one that pulls by vacuum. The vacuum type typically attached over the bleeder nipple has a tendency to suck air around the threading of the nipple.

Either technique is better than pumping the brakes because there is a risk the brake pedal will be depressed beyond its typical range and damage the seals resulting in leaks.

From my experience having relied on each of these techniques over the years.

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#4468511 - 07/23/17 11:08 PM Re: Motive power bleeder? [Re: MrHorspwer]
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Registered: 02/11/14
Posts: 1977
Loc: Upper Midwest by the Lakes USA
Originally Posted By: MrHorspwer
I have a Motive bleeder and absolutely love it. I've owned it for at least a decade, primarily for cars that see HPDE/auto-x use. I tend to flush every year, sometimes more than once. Full flush with a solid pedal every time, no mishaps, and it's quicker than anything around.

Flushing out my Camaro earlier this year before it's first auto-x
I'm not a big fan of pricey single-purpose tools, but:


Any negatives to the Motive bleeding process, design, etc? I'd kinda fear a "blowout" and soray of brake fluid on paint.

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#4468590 - 07/24/17 05:33 AM Re: Motive power bleeder? [Re: buck91]
Panos Offline


Registered: 12/08/16
Posts: 63
Loc: Greece
I have bought a Chinese hand vacuum kit from e bay last year... Cost about 20 bucks delivered. Works like a charm. Best guaranteed result and speed for the fluid change. And at last I managed to service my car buy myself after 12 years of ownership beside my bikes which I already could change the fluid by the manual method pumping the levers.
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#4468643 - 07/24/17 07:00 AM Re: Motive power bleeder? [Re: buck91]
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Registered: 12/14/10
Posts: 430
Loc: Indianapolis, IN
My power bleeder is one of my favorite tools. I sometimes bleed the brakes on my race car a half-dozen times a week. Using the power bleeder it takes longer to jack the car up than actually bleed the brakes.
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#4468671 - 07/24/17 07:42 AM Re: Motive power bleeder? [Re: buck91]
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Registered: 04/05/05
Posts: 480
Loc: NE Ohio
I started using a Motive bleeder to flush clutch cylinders. Could not get the clutch to pump enough fluid to flush.
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#4468673 - 07/24/17 07:43 AM Re: Motive power bleeder? [Re: buck91]
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Registered: 05/21/12
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Since I started using the Motive, I won't do it any other way. Just get under, and hit all 4-6 wheels.

No monitoring the reservoir, no pumping, no nothing.

This a Godsend for trailers and my forklifts. Some of my lifts have 4 stages of bleeding thanks to the complex braking systems. No way I'd do the traditional method ever again.

Amazing for clutches too.
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#4468679 - 07/24/17 07:48 AM Re: Motive power bleeder? [Re: DoubleWasp]
ArcticDriver Offline


Registered: 01/27/17
Posts: 1139
Loc: USA
Originally Posted By: DoubleWasp
Since I started using the Motive, I won't do it any other way. Just get under, and hit all 4-6 wheels.

No monitoring the reservoir, no pumping, no nothing.

This a Godsend for trailers and my forklifts. Some of my lifts have 4 stages of bleeding thanks to the complex braking systems. No way I'd do the traditional method ever again.

Amazing for clutches too.


+1.

Well worth the initial investment.
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#4468840 - 07/24/17 10:52 AM Re: Motive power bleeder? [Re: buck91]
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Registered: 02/06/14
Posts: 2350
Loc: Canada
I had one for a while (Motive bleeder).

Decided to sell it on CL to some 911 enthusiast after discovering gravity bleeding.

Never looked back

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