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Next bike #4460293
07/15/17 03:01 PM
07/15/17 03:01 PM
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New England
Jarlaxle Offline OP
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I have been thinking-though not immediately-about another bike. One obvious choice is tbe 650 Burgman Executive. The other is one I only found out about recently: the 2004-08 XL1200R, or XL883R. Yes, that is the early Sportster Roadster. Anyone famiar with them?


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Re: Next bike [Re: Jarlaxle] #4460352
07/15/17 04:46 PM
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Saskatchewan, Canada
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I'd be looking at the Triumph Bobber if I was looking for something in the size / profile you're exploring.


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Re: Next bike [Re: Jarlaxle] #4460380
07/15/17 05:58 PM
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Seattle-ish, WA
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My SIL has one and I've ridden it a few times when visiting. They are stylish, well-built, reliable. My only real criticism is size; it feels too small to me. For a few scoots around town it's fine, for longer rides or highways it feels lacking. It depends upon how you want to use it, how big you are, how confident and experienced a rider you are, and where you want to ride it. All of these variables play into choosing the right machine for the rider and situation. We don't know what they are.

Re: Next bike [Re: Jarlaxle] #4460398
07/15/17 06:21 PM
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California
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Originally Posted By: Jarlaxle
I have been thinking-though not immediately-about another bike. One obvious choice is tbe 650 Burgman Executive. The other is one I only found out about recently: the 2004-08 XL1200R, or XL883R. Yes, that is the early Sportster Roadster. Anyone famiar with them?

Very different choices. Curious why those? The Sporster has style, the Burgman practicality. What are your goals?

For the Sportster I guess I'd be inclined to go with a fuel injected model, excluding the earliest years of your range.

The guy I do most of my motorcycle trips with has been riding the same 2007 Sporster for 10 years. Reliable like anvil, and he likes it. TBH if I were looking for a used Sporster, I'd probably end up buying a Buell. Different strokes and all. A few years ago I really wanted one. My needs are different now, and they're getting older, and it's getting less likely.

Hope you find something you like.

Re: Next bike [Re: Jarlaxle] #4460401
07/15/17 06:28 PM
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The XL883R was introduced in 2002. Last year in the US was 2007.(with EFI)

The engines are rubber mounted after 2004.
2004 1200s got new heads and higher performance "W" cams.

2005 was the last year for straight cut gears in the transmission.

2006 the 1200 R got a black engine.

In 2007 the Sportsters got EFI. Slight difference in the heads and intake manifold for EFI.

The 2008 XL1200R came with the 4.5 gallon gas tank. Earlier ones had a 3.3 gallon.


More Sportster info here: http://sportsterpedia.com/doku.php/sportster_history:start


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Re: Next bike [Re: Jarlaxle] #4460425
07/15/17 06:51 PM
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The Canyons
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If I were looking at a Sportster, it would be the 1200. As for choosing between a Sportster and a Burgman scooter, as was mentioned, it would be tough to find two more disparate choices.

Re: Next bike [Re: Jarlaxle] #4460447
07/15/17 07:23 PM
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If I wanted a Harley it would be the XR1200 - why don't Harley owners want a bike that handles?


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Re: Next bike [Re: Jarlaxle] #4460467
07/15/17 07:43 PM
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Midwest USA
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Admittedly I have Moto Guzzi on the brain lately but take a look at the V9 Bobber or V9 Roamer, some deals out there and a unique looking bike with decent specs, and ... it's Italian ... cool


Bobber:





Roamer:




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Re: Next bike [Re: Jarlaxle] #4460525
07/15/17 09:33 PM
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New England
Jarlaxle Offline OP
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Not if it was free. The reason I am considering a Sportster is ease of service...one reason I have zero interest in a Guzzi.


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Re: Next bike [Re: David_g] #4460528
07/15/17 09:36 PM
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New England
Jarlaxle Offline OP
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Originally Posted By: David_g
Originally Posted By: Jarlaxle
I have been thinking-though not immediately-about another bike. One obvious choice is tbe 650 Burgman Executive. The other is one I only found out about recently: the 2004-08 XL1200R, or XL883R. Yes, that is the early Sportster Roadster. Anyone famiar with them?

Very different choices. Curious why those? The Sporster has style, the Burgman practicality. What are your goals?


My last motorcycle...something I can ride for 20 years. At least one multi-thousand mile trip every year.

Quote:
For the Sportster I guess I'd be inclined to go with a fuel injected model, excluding the earliest years of your range.


Only got efi in, IIRC, 2007...while I'd prefer it, I can deal with a carb.

Quote:
The guy I do most of my motorcycle trips with has been riding the same 2007 Sporster for 10 years. Reliable like anvil, and he likes it. TBH if I were looking for a used Sporster, I'd probably end up buying a Buell. Different strokes and all. A few years ago I really wanted one. My needs are different now, and they're getting older, and it's getting less likely.

Hope you find something you like.


No interest in a Buell. One reason a Sporty interests me IS tbe reliability.


1979 Coupe de Ville, 542 stroker, winter storage frown
2011 Crown Vic P71, 5W-20 Super Tech, Super Tech
2011 Sportster 883, winter storage frown
Re: Next bike [Re: Jarlaxle] #4460531
07/15/17 09:40 PM
07/15/17 09:40 PM
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Seattle-ish, WA
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If there are early years of that range pre-injection, definitely shop for one WITH if you budget allows.

I have a pre-injection evo Dyna, and my brother and dad have FI Ultras. I have ridden the FI models and spent 10 days on one once on a 4,000 mile trip (Heritage Softail c. ~2001). It's worth it.

Re: Next bike [Re: Jarlaxle] #4460552
07/15/17 10:08 PM
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Jarlaxle Offline OP
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Not budget...just the fact early Roadsters are quite rare.


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2011 Sportster 883, winter storage frown
Re: Next bike [Re: Jarlaxle] #4460571
07/15/17 11:33 PM
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Cincinnati
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If you want reliability buy a Japanese bike. Yamaha has been the most reliable as of late. A Harley is not exactly "reliable" in comparison to a Japanese bike. Likely the Guzzi would be just as reliable if not more so than any HD. No diss on HD but they are not bought for reliability..they are bought for the image.

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Re: Next bike [Re: donnyj08] #4460572
07/15/17 11:45 PM
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Originally Posted By: donnyj08
If you want reliability buy a Japanese bike. Yamaha has been the most reliable as of late. A Harley is not exactly "reliable" in comparison to a Japanese bike. Likely the Guzzi would be just as reliable if not more so than any HD. No diss on HD but they are not bought for reliability..they are bought for the image.


I am guessing you don't own a modern HD? I really, really like Hondas and own more of them now and over the years, but I've had no reliability issues with any HD I or multiple family issues have owned. I do more maintenance on them, but a big part of that is because they are easier to work on and more fun to do so IMO. I've also owned a Moto Guzzi in the past and this issue of "reliability" is a bit overblown.

Re: Next bike [Re: Jarlaxle] #4460617
07/16/17 05:15 AM
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Originally Posted By: Jarlaxle
Not if it was free. The reason I am considering a Sportster is ease of service...one reason I have zero interest in a Guzzi.


Guzzi's are very easy to service, unless you mean dealer network density in which case.... yeah. I agree there. Few and far between. But Guzzi's are notoriously easy to DIY on, including the big stuff like valve adjustments.



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'16 Moto Guzzi Stelvio 1200 .....(ENI i-Ride PG 10W60)
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