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check for level vehicle #4449080
07/04/17 06:39 AM
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mickalo Offline OP
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hope everyone has safe & fun 4th of july smile

anyhow was wondering about checking the vehicle is fairly level when checking trany fluid when doing a ford 5r55s trany. sure many know you have to do underneath. just did a fluid filter change last weekend and just measured from the ground up to running boards, front & rear each side, while it was up on ramps. was pretty close but was wondering is there a better way to check to make sure vehicle level either on a flat surface or up on ramps?

TIA


2010 Ford explorer 4.0L sohc 4wd 5w-30 Full Syn.
Re: check for level vehicle [Re: mickalo] #4449098
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I do transmission work, gear oil changes, and transfer case fluid changes on level ground on 4 ramps, all the same size, so it's level to begin with. If I'm working and need the vehicle level because it was jacked, and on stands I have a little bubble level which I place on a flat level surface on the vehicle and check with that.


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Re: check for level vehicle [Re: mickalo] #4449103
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Eyeball.


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Re: check for level vehicle [Re: Lubener] #4449108
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Originally Posted By: Lubener
Eyeball.


To quote a friend, "Synthetics, man."

'85 GMC C3500, 454, 132K
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Re: check for level vehicle [Re: demarpaint] #4449135
07/04/17 07:37 AM
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Originally Posted By: demarpaint
I do transmission work, gear oil changes, and transfer case fluid changes on level ground on 4 ramps, all the same size, so it's level to begin with. If I'm working and need the vehicle level because it was jacked, and on stands I have a little bubble level which I place on a flat level surface on the vehicle and check with that.


I was thinking about using a small bubble level maybe on the floor behind the front seats might try that next time.

I pretty much eye balled it last time and it was pretty close, even after I measured it, just like to make sure when checking the trany fluid she's close to level as possible. These ford's 5r55s tranys can be real finicky about fluid level.


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Re: check for level vehicle [Re: mickalo] #4449149
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Originally Posted By: mickalo
Originally Posted By: demarpaint
I do transmission work, gear oil changes, and transfer case fluid changes on level ground on 4 ramps, all the same size, so it's level to begin with. If I'm working and need the vehicle level because it was jacked, and on stands I have a little bubble level which I place on a flat level surface on the vehicle and check with that.


I was thinking about using a small bubble level maybe on the floor behind the front seats might try that next time.

I pretty much eye balled it last time and it was pretty close, even after I measured it, just like to make sure when checking the trany fluid she's close to level as possible. These ford's 5r55s tranys can be real finicky about fluid level.


Eyeballing works, sometimes I tend to over do it. You're in good company!


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Re: check for level vehicle [Re: mickalo] #4449150
07/04/17 07:47 AM
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I've found the engine is level. I use the coil cover and a bubble level on my 4 cylinders.


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Re: check for level vehicle [Re: mickalo] #4449175
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mickalo Offline OP
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i found Summit Racing makes a dipstick conversion kit for these tranys but runs about $310 not quite in my budget range wink

Last edited by mickalo; 07/04/17 08:09 AM.

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Re: check for level vehicle [Re: mickalo] #4449230
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I am fortunate to have a very level pad to park my vehicle on if I am concerned about needing this for a fluid check. I used a 6 foot carpenter level to check the area. But if taken to the OCD level, which part do you measure level. The engine/transmission might sit cattywompus compared to the other parts of the vehicle. With tires sitting on level ground, the springs might have the body/frame sitting unlevel. Just observations. Gut enuf is fine by me.

I would think that some imaginative use of an inexpensive string level would get you in the ball park, if needed. Either use it on your parking surface/ramps (see link) or find areas on your rocker panel pinch welds to measure vehicle level on both length and width.

http://www.460ford.com/forum/42-general-tech/145052-where-measure-unibody.html

Re: check for level vehicle [Re: mickalo] #4449238
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mickalo Offline OP
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doitmyself that is a nice setup, is that a ford fairlane by chance ??


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Re: check for level vehicle [Re: mickalo] #4449254
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Some vehicles are a little high in back. I have used a torpedo level on top of the battery. Eyeball the battery first.


"If everything seems under control, you're just not going fast enough."
- Mario Andretti


Re: check for level vehicle [Re: mickalo] #4449268
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Not my pics. Ford Falcon according to the link.

Re: check for level vehicle [Re: Lubener] #4449317
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Originally Posted By: Lubener
Eyeball.


We call that the "accu-precise eyeball-o-meter"


Mighty Mouse Tech
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Re: check for level vehicle [Re: mightymousetech] #4449320
07/04/17 10:28 AM
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mickalo Offline OP
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Originally Posted By: mightymousetech
Originally Posted By: Lubener
Eyeball.


We call that the "accu-precise eyeball-o-meter"


banana


2010 Ford explorer 4.0L sohc 4wd 5w-30 Full Syn.
Re: check for level vehicle [Re: mickalo] #4449324
07/04/17 10:32 AM
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Level means when the vehicle is sitting on its own weight on level ground. So unless the suspension is shot, that's the true level. Various vehicle components/body parts may not be at true level when in this position.


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