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Fix for tail pipe cancer? #4440361
06/24/17 01:19 PM
06/24/17 01:19 PM
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Seattle-ish, WA
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When doing my biennial brake fluid flush, I was surprised to find a hole developed where the tailpipe joins the muffler body. I am under the car much more frequently than very two years doing maintenance or inspections, but I never noticed this developing to this degree before. The rest of the exhaust from the header back is pretty darn clean. This is an 02 Lexus ES. In our climate, rust is a non-issue and this is the only spot. Seems like an obvious condensation trap there.

I have searched quite a bit on exhaust repair techniques but I can't find something I see working in that angle. The material around the hole itself is brittle and you can poke it and flake it away. I imagine it would need to be a putty or paste of some type initially to form and adhere. Also, the pipe is quite corroded and I think if I used a wire brush on a drill to clean it up it might erode it away.

So I was wondering if there was an inexpensive way to patch it that would last vs buying a new one? If a patch would only last a year or two, it's certainly not worth the effort vs. replacing it.


Re: Fix for tail pipe cancer? [Re: Oro_O] #4440363
06/24/17 01:22 PM
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You can't weld to rusty metal so, no, there isn't a halfway fix.

Re: Fix for tail pipe cancer? [Re: Oro_O] #4440367
06/24/17 01:29 PM
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You can call some area muffler shops and ask them how much for a new muffler with tailpipe installed. Then ask what brand they use. Should be around $120-160. You can wait till it starts to get louder, may last another year or so.

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Re: Fix for tail pipe cancer? [Re: Oro_O] #4440372
06/24/17 01:38 PM
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Side note: always make sure your mufflers have a clear open condensation drain hole.


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Re: Fix for tail pipe cancer? [Re: Oro_O] #4440376
06/24/17 01:44 PM
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Oro_O Offline OP
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So if the replacement doesn't have one, should I drill one? (drain hole).

Between Bosal and Walker, which appear to be the two widely available choices, is one superior to the other?

I see that I can get one or the other for about $150 and I can install it.

Re: Fix for tail pipe cancer? [Re: Oro_O] #4440377
06/24/17 01:44 PM
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See what a factory replacement pipe costs before doing anything.


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Re: Fix for tail pipe cancer? [Re: Oro_O] #4440385
06/24/17 01:59 PM
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Definitely worth it to drill one if it lacks it.


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Re: Fix for tail pipe cancer? [Re: Oro_O] #4440402
06/24/17 02:27 PM
06/24/17 02:27 PM
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Deplorable in apple valley, ca
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Originally Posted By: Oro_O
So if the replacement doesn't have one, should I drill one? (drain hole).

Between Bosal and Walker, which appear to be the two widely available choices, is one superior to the other?

I see that I can get one or the other for about $150 and I can install it.
exhaust work is one thing I will not do. Rust in your eye,dirty etc to save $35


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Re: Fix for tail pipe cancer? [Re: Oro_O] #4440403
06/24/17 02:27 PM
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Heck, here in Wi that would be listed as "newer exhaust" on Craigslist. Looks clean by our standards.

Re: Fix for tail pipe cancer? [Re: CT8] #4440405
06/24/17 02:30 PM
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Seattle-ish, WA
Oro_O Offline OP
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Originally Posted By: CT8
See what a factory replacement pipe costs before doing anything.


They were $360+ shipping at the best price I could find. A super-clean take-off from a Texas or other dry-region wreck is not unacceptable to me. I will also shop for one, now realizing I can drill a drain and make it last longer. This is the only muffler I've had to replace on any vehicle living in the PNW given the mild climate/no salt. Even though it has high mileage, it runs great and looks good. Probably the car will stay around in use and then go to a child in three years when they start driving.

Re: Fix for tail pipe cancer? [Re: Oro_O] #4440420
06/24/17 02:45 PM
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Upstate NY
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A local guy near me welds stainless pipe and not much more than steel pipe.


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Re: Fix for tail pipe cancer? [Re: Oro_O] #4440449
06/24/17 03:37 PM
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Kalifornia Kollective
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Looks like aluminized muffler (good) but plain steel pipe (bad) ... Make sure the new one is aluminized all the way back smile


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Re: Fix for tail pipe cancer? [Re: Oro_O] #4440499
06/24/17 04:49 PM
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N.Ohio
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Get the sawsall out cut out and replace muffler and tail pipe. Any less is a temporary rig job.


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Re: Fix for tail pipe cancer? [Re: Oro_O] #4440521
06/24/17 05:32 PM
06/24/17 05:32 PM
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USA
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Get a Walker Quietflow muffler. It's stainless and has a lifetime warranty smile

Re: Fix for tail pipe cancer? [Re: Oro_O] #4440536
06/24/17 05:59 PM
06/24/17 05:59 PM
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northern NY
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No fixin a muffler like that, it's where most fall apart. Check Rock Auto. Great prices just make sure everything comes from the same warehouse or shipping stacks up.

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