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#4439737 - 06/23/17 06:16 PM Virgin EcoGard S4651 (Synthetic) C&P
blupupher Offline


Registered: 08/27/04
Posts: 4421
Loc: Katy, Republic of Texas
Well, Ecogard sent me some of their sythetic filters (see this post for all details).

From Ecogard, the efficiency per their rep is 99.9% efficient > 30um and 97.22% efficient > 20um.
Not as good as a Tough Guard, but better than the Extra Guard and from what I gather, Wix/Napa Gold.
These have been selling for <$5 on Amazon and Walmart.com for most sizes (some are regular price from $8-12).

So here are the pics:

Can and Box:


Side of box:


No cryptic date code. Made October 11, 2013:


Plastic wrap on the bottom:


Spiral center tube with large holes:


All cut apart:


Silicone ADV and coil spring:


Only 1 wide pleat, metal crimp that goes from top to bottom and glued in:








Soo, we have a little rust in this can too (not near as bad as the other one I cut open)


Little better view of rust:


Quick wipe with a coffee filter:


Same weight as thier regular filter:


Base plate on this one is .2 oz heavier than the other one:


Did not weigh the other cartridge part, but here is this one.


Both media side by side, Syn on left, regular on right:


Synthetic media:


Regular media:


So overall, a decent filter.
I have no way to test the media, but it did feel "softer" than from the regular one.
The regular one felt like very stiff paper, this one was still firm, but the media itself was not as rough, guess from the synthetic blend.
The synthetic media measured 84" vs the regular media @ 86" (both were ~ 1 5/8" high)
Solid construction overall though.

Still a slight issue with rust on this one.
Not like the other, but it is a 3.5 year old filter, and I know other filters have slight rust issues like this on older filters.
Unlike the other one, I would have had no issues using this one.
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#4439748 - 06/23/17 06:29 PM Re: Virgin EcoGard S4651 (Synthetic) C&P [Re: blupupher]
Canadastang Offline


Registered: 12/08/15
Posts: 261
Loc: Ontario Canada
Personally, I wouldn't be too concerned about the rust. I've got a rusty MC FL500 sitting in my garage right now, with a production date of October 2015. I bought it in December 2015ish and the inside of the can was rusty the day I got it.

Not to say it's a good thing, but I don't think it's going to affect much.

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#4439759 - 06/23/17 06:37 PM Re: Virgin EcoGard S4651 (Synthetic) C&P [Re: blupupher]
blupupher Offline


Registered: 08/27/04
Posts: 4421
Loc: Katy, Republic of Texas
Yeah, I am not really concerned about it on a 3.5 year old filter, just noting that it was there.
I will use the other one with no concerns.
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#4439779 - 06/23/17 06:53 PM Re: Virgin EcoGard S4651 (Synthetic) C&P [Re: blupupher]
oil_film_movies Offline


Registered: 06/13/16
Posts: 2559
Loc: MN
Originally Posted By: blupupher
From Ecogard, the efficiency per their rep is 99.9% efficient > 30um and 97.22% efficient > 20um.

The side of the box itself says 99.9% @ 25 microns, 4548-12.

Good overall filter. I agree Fram TG, and I'd add M1 oil filters r as good or better. (Frampa likes the TG recomendation....)

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#4439798 - 06/23/17 07:09 PM Re: Virgin EcoGard S4651 (Synthetic) C&P [Re: blupupher]
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Loc: Idaho
Great job on the [email protected] !!!
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#4439803 - 06/23/17 07:11 PM Re: Virgin EcoGard S4651 (Synthetic) C&P [Re: blupupher]
Garak Offline


Registered: 12/05/09
Posts: 24574
Loc: Regina, Saskatchewan, Canada
Thanks for the post. It would be interesting to see more options on the shelf, but Canada is a tough market, for some strange reason.
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#4439852 - 06/23/17 07:57 PM Re: Virgin EcoGard S4651 (Synthetic) C&P [Re: blupupher]
SR5 Offline


Registered: 07/07/15
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Looks like a decent filter. I would use it.
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#4439886 - 06/23/17 08:51 PM Re: Virgin EcoGard S4651 (Synthetic) C&P [Re: oil_film_movies]
blupupher Offline


Registered: 08/27/04
Posts: 4421
Loc: Katy, Republic of Texas
Originally Posted By: oil_film_movies
Originally Posted By: blupupher
From Ecogard, the efficiency per their rep is 99.9% efficient > 30um and 97.22% efficient > 20um.

The side of the box itself says 99.9% @ 25 microns, 4548-12.

Good overall filter. I agree Fram TG, and I'd add M1 oil filters r as good or better. (Frampa likes the TG recomendation....)


So where do you get 99.9% from, is that what the 4548-12 spec is?

For filters, M1 is just too costly for me.
$10+ for a M1, Ultra for $7-$10, TG for $6-$8, Wix/NAPA Gold for $7-$10, or this one for $4.50-$11.
Ultra is still best bang for buck IMO if you do long (10,000+ mile) intervals or use filter for 2-3 changes.
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#4439904 - 06/23/17 09:28 PM Re: Virgin EcoGard S4651 (Synthetic) C&P [Re: blupupher]
oil_film_movies Offline


Registered: 06/13/16
Posts: 2559
Loc: MN
Originally Posted By: blupupher
So where do you get 99.9% from, is that what the 4548-12 spec is?

Its printed on the side of the box in your pictures above.

Your rep could also be right in their figures too, as 99.9 would also apply to 30 microns too.

Originally Posted By: blupupher
$10+ for a M1, Ultra for $7-$10, TG for $6-$8, Wix/NAPA Gold for $7-$10, or this one for $4.50-$11.
Ultra is still best bang for buck IMO if you do long (10,000+ mile) intervals or use filter for 2-3 changes.

All true, yet I guess I don't care about a few bucks here and there. Fram Ultra is the best, easy to get too, I just find it easy to use the best.


Edited by oil_film_movies (06/23/17 09:29 PM)

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#4439921 - 06/23/17 09:54 PM Re: Virgin EcoGard S4651 (Synthetic) C&P [Re: oil_film_movies]
blupupher Offline


Registered: 08/27/04
Posts: 4421
Loc: Katy, Republic of Texas
Originally Posted By: oil_film_movies
Originally Posted By: blupupher
So where do you get 99.9% from, is that what the 4548-12 spec is?

Its printed on the side of the box in your pictures above.

Your rep could also be right in their figures too, as 99.9 would also apply to 30 microns too.

...

Well be. LOL. I was looking on the side of the box for the number, not the front. duh
I also did not even notice the 10,000 mile part either.
More to make me think it is a good canidate for a Tough Guard replacement (if found for the $4.50 price range, if above $5, I would get the TG instead since it is more easily accessable).

While I agree a few bucks is not going to kill me, I don't like spending more than I have to for a product that works as well as a more expensive item.
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#4440140 - 06/24/17 08:38 AM Re: Virgin EcoGard S4651 (Synthetic) C&P [Re: blupupher]
NormanBuntz Offline


Registered: 07/27/13
Posts: 2123
Loc: Outer Banks, NC
That's an outstanding C&P for a rather uncommonly used filter. I've seen some of the synthetic Ecogards for $4.42 on Amazon Prime.
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#4440185 - 06/24/17 09:32 AM Re: Virgin EcoGard S4651 (Synthetic) C&P [Re: blupupher]
chunt Offline


Registered: 12/14/12
Posts: 169
Loc: ga
Thanks for the post. I have one of these (S4477) that I will using on my daughter's 03 Camry for the next oil change. The one that I have also has a 2013 date (10/11/2013) on it. They must have had a big production run in 2013.
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#4440263 - 06/24/17 11:16 AM Re: Virgin EcoGard S4651 (Synthetic) C&P [Re: blupupher]
WellOiled Offline


Registered: 10/03/15
Posts: 1356
Loc: Houston, Texas
It looks as if the company is not using a corrosion inhibitor.

I think I will steer clear until they fix it.
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#4440266 - 06/24/17 11:19 AM Re: Virgin EcoGard S4651 (Synthetic) C&P [Re: blupupher]
car51 Offline


Registered: 03/12/15
Posts: 10256
Loc: Southwest PA
Nice filter, I'd use it smile
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#4464579 - 07/20/17 06:22 AM Re: Virgin EcoGard S4651 (Synthetic) C&P [Re: car51]
pbm Offline


Registered: 04/19/04
Posts: 7600
Loc: New York
Originally Posted By: car51
Nice filter, I'd use it smile


Me too...I've said it before and I'll say it again...How can China make a filter with nice even pleats for $2 while some American made (expensive) filters have wavy and uneven pleat spacing?
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