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Changing ATF for first time #4414144
05/25/17 02:40 PM
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Oilied Offline OP
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Hi folks, as said I am changing out the transmission fluid for the first time in my ford escape '11 2.5 4 cylinder, 86K.

My question: Is the world going to end if I use Valvoline's brand of Mercon LV ATF? Or is it safer to stick with the Motorcraft brand Mercon LV ATF? The Valvoline seems cheaper where at Motorcraft is harder to get and is more $. Thanks

- O

Re: Changing ATF for first time [Re: Oilied] #4414153
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I'd use the Valvoline product w/o hesitation. It meets the spec, so it will be fine.


God Bless Our Troops

Re: Changing ATF for first time [Re: Oilied] #4414188
05/25/17 03:37 PM
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I put it in a drain/fill on an '09 Focus with 200K on it last fall, and the owner raved about how much better the car felt when she got it back and haven't heard that she had any trouble since. I'd use it with confidence.

Last edited by Alex_V; 05/25/17 03:38 PM.

I like Chevy and Valvoline.

'13 Cruze, 1.4T, 113K
'85 GMC C3500, 454, 130K
'82 Mercedes 300CD, OM617 turbo, 169K
'67 Suburban, 350, 331K
Re: Changing ATF for first time [Re: Oilied] #4414189
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Originally Posted By: Oilied
Hi folks, as said I am changing out the transmission fluid for the first time in my ford escape '11 2.5 4 cylinder, 86K.

My question: Is the world going to end if I use Valvoline's brand of Mercon LV ATF? Or is it safer to stick with the Motorcraft brand Mercon LV ATF? The Valvoline seems cheaper where at Motorcraft is harder to get and is more $. Thanks

- O


I have the same transmission in my Fusion, and Maxlife ATF works just fine. I've done several drain/fills with it over the years. The 6F35 sucks no matter what crazy


'11 Fusion SE 2.5L - 79k miles - HK 0w20 syn, Wix XP filter
'08 Sedona LX LWB 3.8L - 126k miles - Havoline HM 5w20, Auto7 filter
Re: Changing ATF for first time [Re: Oilied] #4414224
05/25/17 04:13 PM
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Valvoline will be fine. How are you changing the ATF? Total ATF exchange?


2015 Subaru Forester 2.5 engine/CVT
2015 Ford F250 w/Powerstroke
2016 Subaru Crosstrek CVT (wife's)
Re: Changing ATF for first time [Re: Oilied] #4414228
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Valvoline's ATF is good stuff. If your warranty has expired, use Maxlife ATF.

If you're still under warranty, use Valvoline Mercon LV or any other synthetic LV ATF (there is a wide range of Ford-approved officially-licensed Mercon LV). Any licensed Mercon LV is acceptable. You do not need Motorcraft brand smile

Re: Changing ATF for first time [Re: Oilied] #4414258
05/25/17 04:59 PM
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MaxLife or any approved MLV fluid will work. Since Ford and GM worked together on most of the newer 6-speed FWD trannies and the 10R units, there are dual-approved DexVI/MLV fluids as well.

Re: Changing ATF for first time [Re: Oilied] #4414360
05/25/17 07:13 PM
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Most transmissions are good with just about any name brand universal fluid. I know that doesn't really add much to this conversation but from past experience the only real vehicle I've ever had act up on a universal fluid was our old '06 Altima.

We only had it in the car for a few days but on a cold start the car was slamming gears on each shift until it warmed up.

I can't speak from experience but I've heard Hondas have a tendency to do this as well with some universe fluids.

Re: Changing ATF for first time [Re: Oilied] #4414362
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That vehicle has a 6F35 transmission mated up to the engine, which is the same engine in my 2010 Fusion. I have used Valvoline MaxLife LV ATF in my 6F35 transmission for every ATF fluid change that I have done. Note the mileage in my signature... This car still has the original 6F35 trans, so draw your own conclusions regarding whether or not Valvoline's MaxLife LV ATF is a good choice for the trans in your Escape...

My money is on "yes"


2010 Ford Fusion SE - 2.5 liter/6F35 Trans - 262,000mi
2014 Nissan Altima SL - 2.5 liter/CVT - 57,000mi
Re: Changing ATF for first time [Re: SirTanon] #4414364
05/25/17 07:23 PM
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Originally Posted By: SirTanon
That vehicle has a 6F35 transmission mated up to the engine, which is the same engine in my 2010 Fusion. I have used Valvoline MaxLife LV ATF in my 6F35 transmission for every ATF fluid change that I have done. Note the mileage in my signature... This car still has the original 6F35 trans, so draw your own conclusions regarding whether or not Valvoline's MaxLife LV ATF is a good choice for the trans in your Escape...

My money is on "yes"


How many miles have you put on your Fusion?


2007 Ford Fusion 232,000 miles
M1 0-20 EP
2017 Ford Fusion 55K
M1 0-20 EP
10,000 mile OCIs on both engines
M1 ATF and MC LV
M1 10-30 in all OPE
MC filters

Re: Changing ATF for first time [Re: Donald] #4414366
05/25/17 07:24 PM
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Oilied Offline OP
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Originally Posted By: Donald
Valvoline will be fine. How are you changing the ATF? Total ATF exchange?


I'm doing a drain and fill, so from what I gather about 4-5 qrts will come out, so I will put that amount back in. On the escape it's a fairly straight forward and easy access.

Thanks to everyone else for the replies, I feel much better about using the Valvoline product. Hopefully it won't be slamming gears but I'm confident from what everyone else has been saying it will be fine.

Is it better to change on a cold or hot engine?

Re: Changing ATF for first time [Re: Oilied] #4414369
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What about the filter if it has one?

A single drain and fill will exchange about 1/3 of the total fluid. The percentage varies by transmission.

Install a Magnefine inline filter.


2015 Subaru Forester 2.5 engine/CVT
2015 Ford F250 w/Powerstroke
2016 Subaru Crosstrek CVT (wife's)
Re: Changing ATF for first time [Re: Oilied] #4414396
05/25/17 07:58 PM
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The OP stated that he was going to use "Valvoline's brand of Mercon LV" and not Maxlife. I'm not sure I've ever seen Valvoline Mercon LV but either way you should be fine (Mercon LV or Maxlife).
Valvoline (and Castrol) make some excellent ATFs and I would trust their recommendations.

I plan on using the Castrol Full Synthetic (LV) ATF that I scored for $3 a quart (at AZ) in my 2016 Escape with the 6F35....it's approved by Ford for the Mercon LV applications.

I have always wondered if Dexron VI would work in the 6F35 since it was a joint venture GM/Ford tranny and Dex VI is used in it's GM counterpart...Thoughts???


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Re: Changing ATF for first time [Re: Oilied] #4414454
05/25/17 09:18 PM
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Originally Posted By: Oilied
[quote=Donald] I'm doing a drain and fill, so from what I gather about 4-5 qrts will come out, so I will put that amount back in. On the escape it's a fairly straight forward and easy access.

Is it better to change on a cold or hot engine?

Warm, at least, but definitely not cold. It's no fun working on things when they're hot !

If you can or want to, after you replace the same amount that came out, drive it for a little bit (15-30 minutes), bring it back in your garage or wherever you do your work, leave it running, and check the level via the 'check plug'. Do this just in case someone changed it before (in case you're not the original owner) and didn't put quite enough back in. It's also possible that it was under-filled at the factory.

Re: Changing ATF for first time [Re: Donald] #4414456
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Originally Posted By: Donald
What about the filter if it has one?

Like so many modern transmissions, these have no (serviceable) filter.

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