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Premium Guard filter for Hyundai/Kia #4323103
02/07/17 08:13 AM
02/07/17 08:13 AM
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In the shop
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This is what my work now uses for Kia/Hyundai spin on filters

Enjoy the pics

https://i.imgur.com/kNjs35f.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/GJvyeTm.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/20gvPU7.jpg


09' Camry LE, 141,020 miles

PP 5w30 and TG 4967
Re: Premium Guard filter for Hyundai/Kia [Re: 53' Stude] #4323117
02/07/17 08:45 AM
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I assume the pricing is significantly better than OE filters.
Looks to be well made from the outside - cut one open if you can.


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Re: Premium Guard filter for Hyundai/Kia [Re: 53' Stude] #4323140
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C51 why aren't you using the board hosting?????
Anyway thanks!

Re: Premium Guard filter for Hyundai/Kia [Re: 53' Stude] #4323157
02/07/17 09:48 AM
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Looks just like a mann-hummel KOREA FILTER. gOT ONE SITTING ON MY DESK DID NOT GIVE ENOUGH op TO MY NISSAN. Threw on a fram ( as I was out of options) and all is well except for a resonance at 2000 rpm for ??? reason. I will put on a Honda pcx -004 high flow filtech next OC where I hope to run some Redline 10w30.


2014 Nissan Rogue S CVT, OC#9 41392mi-QSUD10W30 + M110A CHAMP Filter; 2017 Subaru Crosstrek CVT OC#2 ?? mi-SOA/Idemitsu 0w20 + SOA Filter
Re: Premium Guard filter for Hyundai/Kia [Re: 53' Stude] #4323196
02/07/17 10:32 AM
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Interesting , looks just like a OEM filter. Are you working at a KIA/Hyundai dealer or Indy shop?


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Re: Premium Guard filter for Hyundai/Kia [Re: 53' Stude] #4323203
02/07/17 10:40 AM
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Originally Posted By: car51
This is what my work now uses for Kia/Hyundai spin on filters

Enjoy the pics

https://i.imgur.com/kNjs35f.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/GJvyeTm.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/20gvPU7.jpg

This is the OES filter. Hyundai and Kia both are having oil pressure spiking issues. The Hyundai solution is to have Mann build what is nearly a racing filter in construction. Premium Guard filters can barely hold 200psi without blowing out the O ring so they issued a service bulliten saying they will supply the OES filter until they can redesign their filter for this application. We upped our burst strength on this filter PH9688 to 360psi from 240 due to this issue. Using "low cost region" filters on these engines may cost you an engine if you are not careful.


Jay M Buckley
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(248) 808-4551
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Re: Premium Guard filter for Hyundai/Kia [Re: Motorking] #4323224
02/07/17 11:01 AM
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Originally Posted By: Motorking
This is the OES filter. Hyundai and Kia both are having oil pressure spiking issues.

Solution is to have a bypass valve..... Ha!
Is the pressure relief valve sticking? Whaaa--aaa---aaat?

Re: Premium Guard filter for Hyundai/Kia [Re: Motorking] #4323257
02/07/17 11:44 AM
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Originally Posted By: Motorking
Hyundai and Kia both are having oil pressure spiking issues. .....for this application. We upped our burst strength on this filter PH9688 to 360psi from 240 due to this issue.


Good Lord - - that can't be good for their oil pump life.

Try that in a SBC or SBF and you will shear the roll-pin on the distributor gear!


"The evidence demands a verdict".
(Re:VOA)"it's nearly impossible to actually know the particular additives that are in there at what concentrations."
Re: Premium Guard filter for Hyundai/Kia [Re: 53' Stude] #4323326
02/07/17 01:17 PM
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Thank you '51. Definitely looks like the OEM filter construction-wise.


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Re: Premium Guard filter for Hyundai/Kia [Re: 53' Stude] #4323441
02/07/17 03:33 PM
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So it would appear especially from the baseplate pic, this specific Premium Guard application is the current Mann made H/K OEM filter without the "genuine H/K" labeling. Thus is rebadged Mann H/K for Premium Guard sale. The key imo then would be if the PG can be obtained at retail for less than the H/K labeled OEM.

A Prime Guard oil filter tsb likely related to the decision to rebadge the Mann OEM is linked. The tsb has been posted here in the past.

http://www.primeautomotive.com/Bulletins-Alerts/Johnsens_TCC_Product_Recall.pdf

Re: Premium Guard filter for Hyundai/Kia [Re: Motorking] #4622694
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Originally Posted By: Motorking
Originally Posted By: car51
This is what my work now uses for Kia/Hyundai spin on filters

Enjoy the pics

https://i.imgur.com/kNjs35f.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/GJvyeTm.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/20gvPU7.jpg

This is the OES filter. Hyundai and Kia both are having oil pressure spiking issues. The Hyundai solution is to have Mann build what is nearly a racing filter in construction. Premium Guard filters can barely hold 200psi without blowing out the O ring so they issued a service bulliten saying they will supply the OES filter until they can redesign their filter for this application. We upped our burst strength on this filter PH9688 to 360psi from 240 due to this issue. Using "low cost region" filters on these engines may cost you an engine if you are not careful.


Jay, I have a 2017 Kia Niro hybrid with 1.6L Atkinson cycle engine. Is the spiking an issue with this engine?

Was the XG9688 burst strength also upped or was this not an issue in the XG? If the former, is there a date code on the filter I should look for, indicating has the increased burst strength? Thanks.

Re: Premium Guard filter for Hyundai/Kia [Re: 53' Stude] #4623110
01/03/18 08:51 PM
01/03/18 08:51 PM
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Georgia
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The OE Hyundai/KIA filters have evidently been upgraded. The new filters are marked Mann+Hummel with the last 5 digits 35504.


2013 KIA Optima EX 2.4L. Now: QSUD 5W30 & STP S2808ML
2017 Ford Escape SE 2.0T Now: Mobil 1 5W30 & NAPA Gold 1348
Re: Premium Guard filter for Hyundai/Kia [Re: 53' Stude] #4624924
01/05/18 01:54 PM
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This looks to be a Hyundai/Kia 26300 35504 filter.

The following is the OEM filter:



Mann is also selling this filter as an after market filter under part number W 811/80. They have dropped the Purolator filter for this application.


2015 Hyundai Elantra Sport 2.0 GDI Mobil 1 5W20 & OEM/Mann W811/80 Filter
2018 Hyundai Santa Fe Sport 2.0T Castrol Edge 5W40 & OEM/Mann W811/80 Filter
Re: Premium Guard filter for Hyundai/Kia [Re: 53' Stude] #4624970
01/05/18 02:39 PM
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Georgia
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That is exactly what it is.


2013 KIA Optima EX 2.4L. Now: QSUD 5W30 & STP S2808ML
2017 Ford Escape SE 2.0T Now: Mobil 1 5W30 & NAPA Gold 1348
Re: Premium Guard filter for Hyundai/Kia [Re: 53' Stude] #4624988
01/05/18 03:00 PM
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NC
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Hyundai/Kia filters are pretty well made. I'm coming on 12k/2 oil changes on mine. Will be cutting and posting it soon.


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