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What's up withKTM's obsession with Motorex oil? #3882514
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I had a KTM 690 SMC. I bought it used and was told by original owner, no almost warned by original owner, to only use Motorex 10w60 in it. It's also stated to use only that oil in that bike in the KTM owners manual.

I just purchased a KTM 1290 Super Duke R and Motorex labeling is on the bike and specified in the owners manual.

Really, if warranted, I'd have no issue spending $20/liter for this oil. The question I have is why should I when there are very good products for less. Mind you the owners manual also suggests use of KTM brake fluid, chain cleaner and lube, coolant, fork oil and even polishing waxes!

Anyone know why Motorex products are so highly encouraged in KTM bikes?


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Re: What's up withKTM's obsession with Motorex oil? [Re: digitalSniperX1] #3882551
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Probly supplies oil to put in new bikes in exchange for their name in the owners manual.


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Re: What's up withKTM's obsession with Motorex oil? [Re: digitalSniperX1] #3882559
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That oil is shearing horribly in KTM bikes.

http://www.bobistheoilguy.com/forums/ubbthreads.php/topics/3836753/1

That poster is going to try Amsoil's SAE60, and I think 20w-60 would be a good choice too. I'm not impressed with that Motorex at all.


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Re: What's up withKTM's obsession with Motorex oil? [Re: Chris142] #3882562
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Well there's that which may be the only reason, haha. I'm hoping someone knows if there are good technical reasons, or not.


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Re: What's up withKTM's obsession with Motorex oil? [Re: Bandito440] #3882564
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Ok good info. Thanks!


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Re: What's up withKTM's obsession with Motorex oil? [Re: digitalSniperX1] #3882583
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Same reason Triumph used to recommend Mobil and then Castrol...they got paid for it.


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Re: What's up withKTM's obsession with Motorex oil? [Re: digitalSniperX1] #3882675
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Friend at work uses Red Line 20w-60 motorcycle oil in his KTM 690, no problems. He said the Motorex 10w-60 burned off to quickly and he was always having to top it off.

Link

Re: What's up withKTM's obsession with Motorex oil? [Re: digitalSniperX1] #3882680
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I tried motorex 10w-60 in my Harley once. It was the first oil I ever used that I had to add to. Iirc 1000 miles in I was 1/2 quart low.
That would be my only complaint though. Bike ran quiet and smooth.

Redline and royal purple were (both automotive versions) were by far ,y favorite though.


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Re: What's up withKTM's obsession with Motorex oil? [Re: OneEyeJack] #3883414
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Ok 1 vote for don't use it...volatile stuff.


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Re: What's up withKTM's obsession with Motorex oil? [Re: Clevy] #3883419
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Originally Posted By: Clevy
I tried motorex 10w-60 in my Harley once. It was the first oil I ever used that I had to add to. Iirc 1000 miles in I was 1/2 quart low.
That would be my only complaint though. Bike ran quiet and smooth.

Redline and royal purple were (both automotive versions) were by far ,y favorite though.


Two votes for don't use. Both implicate Motorex as having highly undesirable volatility performance. Not a good trend for Motorex . Thanks and thanks for telling me a KTM owner used something different with no negative affects/


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Re: What's up withKTM's obsession with Motorex oil? [Re: digitalSniperX1] #3883548
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Re: What's up withKTM's obsession with Motorex oil? [Re: mjoekingz28] #3883591
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Seems to be the case. But them Austrians and Swiss are more than neighbors, they are family.


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Re: What's up withKTM's obsession with Motorex oil? [Re: digitalSniperX1] #3883692
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I have a '14 Super Duke 1290. Running Motorex 10W50. Seems to be OK, but I only have about 3100 mi on the bike and 2500 on the oil. In the last 500 miles or so the oil got quite dark, but shift quality is still good.

Won't be long before the next oil change. For sure within 500 or 600 miles. I have 4 liters of Motorex 10W50 ready to go, 12 quarts of Mobil 1 15W50, and 5 quarts of Valvoline 20W50 synthetic motorcycle oil I bought on sale a while back ($2.99/qt!). I've had great luck over the years with the M1 in several Japanese bikes and an Aprilia Tuono.

What's everyone's vote for the next oil change: Motorex or Mobil 1 or Valvoline?

Last edited by xr650boy; 10/12/15 11:40 PM.

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Re: What's up withKTM's obsession with Motorex oil? [Re: digitalSniperX1] #3883699
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I'll give the Mobil 1 a try. Bike now has 120 miles on it. We can compare results.


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'12 Honda NC700X T6
'14 Kawasaki ZX-14R Yamalube 15w50
Re: What's up withKTM's obsession with Motorex oil? [Re: digitalSniperX1] #3883706
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Originally Posted By: digitalSniperX1


Anyone know why Motorex products are so highly encouraged in KTM bikes?


Name the manual because I checked a USA 2015 KTM Super D manual and found no reference to Motorex...


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