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Re: Cleaning Engine Internals [Re: Oldswagon] #3418224
07/08/14 12:59 PM
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Just wondering why when placed in a freezer the stuff just about freezes? Then I read or heard about it having to be heated up to get it out of a transfer case in the winter. I keep reading about oil formulations being a delicate blend of additives tested etc, and rx has no impact, yet other additives have or can have a negative impact. What's it gonna be fellas?

Something that needs to be heated to pour if stored in a cold space is not something I want to pour in my engine. Anyone have a bottle of rx laying around toss in in your freezer over night and report back. Let me know if you'd add it to your oil, especially when thin is supposed to be in.

Hey Trajan toss a bottle in the freezer and report back. Added to oil it has no impact, funny mmo thins, lucas thickens, rx no impact? Sorry I'm not believing it.

Last edited by rockydee; 07/08/14 01:07 PM.
Re: Cleaning Engine Internals [Re: Trajan] #3418245
07/08/14 01:14 PM
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Originally Posted By: Trajan
Originally Posted By: Mystic
The question

So now he says that Auto-RX is great, the one oil additive that he believes in. But in his reply above in this post, that anybody can read, at one point he says he does not use Auto-RX.


Ummm, it was *you* who uttered those words.

http://www.bobistheoilguy.com/forums/ubb...5952#Post265952

I fully support Auto-RX and Frank also. As far as Frank is concerned, I have very rarely ever dealt with a nicer person. Two of the nicest people I have ever bought stuff from are Tim Mills (who sells Schaeffer's Oil products) and Frank of Auto-RX.

Auto-RX works. I don't work for GM or Ford or Toyota but I can tell you it works. I had some seepage of oil around gaskets and I tried Valvoline MaxLife, which is supposed to stop and prevent oil leakage. Although the Valvoline seemed to work good in my car as a motor oil, it really did nothing for the oil leakage. But after I did two treatments with Auto-RX the oil seepage stopped. My car also runs better and I think that this is a combination of finding fuel system cleaners that work, and Auto-RX.


http://www.bobistheoilguy.com/forums/ubb...5078#Post265078

Let me tell you, w8liftr, Auto-RX really works!
I would recommend Auto-RX to anybody..... Frank Miller, the guy who sells Auto-RX, is really a cool guy.

http://www.bobistheoilguy.com/forums/ubb...5178#Post265178

had a slight seal leak, so I tried Valvoline MaxLife oil, which is supposed to have special seal conditioners. I actually liked the oil-it seemed to run good in my car. But MaxLife did nothing about the seal leak. I then tried Auto-RX, and after a couple of treatments it stopped the leak! I have no evidence or anything, but I think those high mileage oils are over-rated, at least when it comes to solving oil leaks from seals. I think a person is better off using a good conventional oil, like Castrol GTX, Pennzoil, or Chevron, and using Auto-RX. After the cleaning, 3 oz. of Auto-RX can be used in the oil to keep the engine clean. Auto-RX is the ONLY oil additive that I am 100% certain works. I am pretty much turned off from oil additives anyway, but not Auto-RX.

It's nice to have an eidetic memory.

Oh and yes, in reply to your "I haven't used ARX in years", the reply was that I haven't either. Which means, I haven't used it years either.


He changed his mind, get over it. Ever like a person, then he/she does something and [censored] you off and you dislike that person? It happens, move on.

Maybe Mystic realized over the years and thousands of threads that rx isn't what its cracked up to be. That happens too. Look how you did an mmo about face.

In the end who cares? lol

Re: Cleaning Engine Internals [Re: rockydee] #3418298
07/08/14 01:44 PM
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He will keep that kind of stuff up forever rockydee. That is a reflection on what sort of person he is. At least he finally said that he did use Auto-RX. It was kind of confusing when he both said he had tried it and that he does not use it in the same reply. But I can't write his posts and replies for him. I personally have not used Auto-RX for many years.

I am not going to keep going over all of the reasons I stopped using Auto-RX. I had good reasons. But the people who promote Auto-RX and interrupt posts about MMO or Kreen turn me off. If some of these guys who promote Auto-RX were working in an auto parts store I would turn around and walk out.

I have used Auto-RX. They supposedly changed the formula somewhat a while back but what I remember is that it was so thick in the cold it would not flow out of the container. Kind of like how STP was. You had to heat the stuff to make it flow if the container had gotten cold. I was afraid to use Auto-RX in the wintertime. I thought it might interfere with the flow of the oil. I only used it in warmer temperatures and after I saw what cold temperature did to it I always stored the bottles inside my house rather than the garage.

The claim was that once it was in the oil it did not matter if it was cold. But if you put something very thick into oil it seems to me it has to have some effect on the flow characteristics of the oil.

What made me think that Auto-RX works is that a seal leak stopped after I used Auto-RX. Maybe it can stop seal leaks. But regardless what its effectiveness is as to cleaning engines there are other, cheaper products that can do the job. I have not used Kreen but Trav is a professional mechanic and I trust what he says. And demarpaint has used MMO for about 40 years. And there are other products like Amsoil engine flush, Lubegard engine flush, and so forth. Auto-RX costs something like $26.00 a bottle and in comparison Kreen I think costs something like $13.00 and MMO $5.00 a bottle or so.

But a good cleaning motor oil can potentially clean an engine up somewhat and you are going to have to change oil anyway so why not try a good cleaning motor oil first? Makes sense to me.

I was very impressed with Auto-RX when I first used it because of how the seal leak stopped. After I found out more and after all of the stuff that happened here I wished I had never heard of the stuff.

In my opinion they need to find better promoters for Auto-RX here. I don't know how it helps them for a guy to say he uses double the recommended amount and drives double the recommended distance. Right away people are going to say to themselves it is expensive and according to this guy you have to use two bottles of the stuff-it must not work too well.

I also do not think they are helped by rude guys who interrupt the posts of other people. If I am reading a post about MMO I get irritated if some guy suddenly shows up and starts saying that MMO is trash and I should use Auto-RX which is the real deal and the only oil supplement anybody ever needs. All other oil supplements are garbage.

Re: Cleaning Engine Internals [Re: Oldswagon] #3418535
07/08/14 05:20 PM
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This was fun. Smart people who want to clean an engine should check the archives. Spend time, look at the locked threads. See why they were locked down. See who has an agenda, who is the real deal, count positive reviews, and negative reviews from actual users of these sacred elixirs. Decide based on that.

Remember: A fool and his money---------.
Don't clean your engine unless it needs cleaning.
Never change your mind.
If you post about a product expect some heat.

Most important, no one really cares what you do or what you use.

I'm done!
Rocky Dee out.

Re: Cleaning Engine Internals [Re: rockydee] #3418850
07/08/14 09:02 PM
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Go buy some Rislone. Enjoy!


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Re: Cleaning Engine Internals [Re: rockydee] #3418947
07/08/14 10:17 PM
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Originally Posted By: rockydee
sprintman-how many times do u have to clean a engine? Are you getting them clean the first time? You said-"Your Falcon usually gets two bottles until recently." I cleaned project car engines up, and engines neglected by friends and prev. owners and they stayed clean once good oil was used and changed when required. Just asking that's all.


Falcons plural. Got a newish one (2005) and now one bottle of Rx Plus on trial but it's a big sump and filter, about 8 quarts and one probably isn't enough. One in the Forester but it's a small sump. Always trying different methodologies

Re: Cleaning Engine Internals [Re: sprintman] #3420370
07/10/14 06:57 AM
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Originally Posted By: Sprintman
Always trying different methodologies




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Re: Cleaning Engine Internals [Re: Trav] #3422011
07/11/14 06:51 PM
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Originally Posted By: Trav
Originally Posted By: Sprintman
Always trying different methodologies



As usual KK doesn't get it. What a surprise....

Last edited by sprintman; 07/11/14 06:52 PM.
Re: Cleaning Engine Internals [Re: sprintman] #3422158
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If i knew it would get your knickers in such a twist i would have posted something different. LOL


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Re: Cleaning Engine Internals [Re: Trav] #3422289
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Originally Posted By: Trav
If i knew it would get your knickers in such a twist i would have posted something different. LOL


Actually I couldn't give a [censored] but whatever floats your boat...

Re: Cleaning Engine Internals [Re: Oldswagon] #3422366
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Wow after a 2 week vacation I finally got to sit down and read this thread. I mean really read it, wow.

The resident MMO junkie/shill is considering Rislone in his son's Rav4. I see it got some good reviews while I was away. That's a name that has been around longer than MMO, maybe it will become the next Bitog cleaning favorite. Who knows if it works I may even become a convert. LOL


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Re: Cleaning Engine Internals [Re: demarpaint] #3422386
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Originally Posted By: demarpaint
Wow after a 2 week vacation I finally got to sit down and read this thread. I mean really read it, wow.

The resident MMO junkie/shill is considering Rislone in his son's Rav4. I see it got some good reviews while I was away. That's a name that has been around longer than MMO, maybe it will become the next Bitog cleaning favorite. Who knows if it works I may even become a convert. LOL


It's always such fun around here. Hope you had a great time!


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Re: Cleaning Engine Internals [Re: SteveSRT8] #3422392
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Originally Posted By: SteveSRT8
Originally Posted By: demarpaint
Wow after a 2 week vacation I finally got to sit down and read this thread. I mean really read it, wow.

The resident MMO junkie/shill is considering Rislone in his son's Rav4. I see it got some good reviews while I was away. That's a name that has been around longer than MMO, maybe it will become the next Bitog cleaning favorite. Who knows if it works I may even become a convert. LOL


It's always such fun around here. Hope you had a great time!


I did buddy! I got to spend quality time with my son, and sail across the Pacific on a US Navy Destroyer. Awesome!


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Re: Cleaning Engine Internals [Re: Oldswagon] #3422433
07/12/14 07:13 AM
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You don't look like type of person who gets "vacation" from BITOG imposed upon him :-) We can all agree that there are few here who could certainly use such a "vacation"!

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Re: Cleaning Engine Internals [Re: Vikas] #3422435
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Originally Posted By: Vikas
You don't look like type of person who gets "vacation" from BITOG imposed upon him :-) We can all agree that there are few here who could certainly use such a "vacation"!


LOL- Thanks Vikas, this was a vacation I decided to take. I'm sure there are a few people in need of a "vacation" from Bitog, and others hoping mine was permanent.


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