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#3321785 - 03/24/14 09:35 AM Oil for Engine Driven Welder
IntIron Offline


Registered: 04/08/07
Posts: 2
Loc: CO
Hello,

We run Kohler Commander engines, air cooled. The recommended interval is 100 hours for oil and 150 for Oil Filter.

We have been running Mobil 1, Full Synthetic 10W-30 and just putting the interval at 150 for each.

Do you think this is ok?

Thank you.

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#3321797 - 03/24/14 09:47 AM Re: Oil for Engine Driven Welder [Re: IntIron]
Oil Changer Offline


Registered: 08/28/06
Posts: 2297
Loc: Michigan
I had a Miller Bobcat and we used Rotella SAE30 in SoCal. M1 is fine but I would use the HM version. The HM is A3/B3 and much heavier with an HTHS of 3.5 as opposed to the 3.0 of what you are currently using. The HM also has more Z and Ph. As a total package, go with the HM if M1 is cheap and easy to get.

Having said all of that, T5/T6, SAE30/40 HDEO will work just fine.

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#3321846 - 03/24/14 10:36 AM Re: Oil for Engine Driven Welder [Re: IntIron]
440Magnum Offline


Registered: 02/01/09
Posts: 8454
Loc: Texas
I tend to run Rotella T6 (5w40 synthetic) in all my OPE. No complaints, the last one I had to open up (non oil-related problem) was absolutely spotless inside. Bore and bearings all looked great. Most OPE now seems to call for an Xw30, but I've never had a problem going to T6 even though its an Xw40- cold starts (relatively speaking- we don't have much below 20F nights here, and only a few times a year) are not an issue thus far. And it makes me feel a little more secure on the 100+ F summer days.
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#3322036 - 03/24/14 01:07 PM Re: Oil for Engine Driven Welder [Re: IntIron]
Doog Offline


Registered: 10/24/11
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Rotella T5 10w30 will do just fine.
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#3322628 - 03/24/14 11:19 PM Re: Oil for Engine Driven Welder [Re: IntIron]
Doug Hillary Offline


Registered: 05/30/03
Posts: 5097
Loc: Airlie Beach Australia
Hi,
Intiron - Welcome to BITOG

What you have been doing is just fine - keep doing it with confidence
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#3344686 - 04/16/14 03:20 PM Re: Oil for Engine Driven Welder [Re: IntIron]
tig1 Offline


Registered: 01/03/09
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Loc: Illinois
For gas powered welders like yours M1 10-30 is a good choice. I use this oil in all my OPE including my 5KW gen.
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#3352006 - 04/24/14 02:04 PM Re: Oil for Engine Driven Welder [Re: IntIron]
camelCase Offline


Registered: 07/11/13
Posts: 170
Loc: Southeastern, USA
I'd run Rotella T6. The 5W40 will give you the cold start pumpability but will have a thicker oil film on the higher end. Portable engines typically don't have the tightest tolerances and wear pretty weirdly sometimes. The 40wt is just 1 step higher, but can greatly increase the oil wedge's load holding capacity.

Plus - it's hard to beat the bang for buck value fo Rotella T6.

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#3377327 - 05/21/14 12:07 PM Re: Oil for Engine Driven Welder [Re: IntIron]
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Registered: 02/09/05
Posts: 1628
Loc: Arizona
We ran Kendall Super-D III in our Lincoln Ranger 9s for a very long time. When I was operating in Yuma and Kendall was not reasonably available, I put in an alternative, high-quality 15W40 all-fleet oil. Those Ranger 9s never smoked or had any troubles at all, despite having tough lives on the farms.
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#3880788 - 10/10/15 12:23 AM Re: Oil for Engine Driven Welder [Re: IntIron]
JR Offline


Registered: 08/08/04
Posts: 1262
Loc: Michigan born but my heart bel...
Two onan powered units. They get 15w-40, 20w-50, and 10w-40 is usede usually.
The older one uses a little oil from one cylinder. It holds 4+QTS.
The newer on gets hdeo and a fl-1a.
Both have a million hours. Former commercial now are rental units.

If your using m1, I would stay with it. I would opt for the hm formula. Higher a/w and etc. Also a 5w-xx would be better for cold weather, frequent starts, and ect.

The 24hp Kohler 7000series on cud zero turn has 35hrs. Kohler 10w-30 to be dumped for m1 truck and SUV 5w-30 and call it broke in. It will see syn oil only.



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