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#2838421 - 12/17/12 07:06 PM Re: Making pure gas from E10? [Re: Kestas]
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Why would you want to do this?
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#2838588 - 12/17/12 09:26 PM Re: Making pure gas from E10? [Re: Kestas]
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To prevent phase separation and the subsequent gelling and corrosion that follows in my equipment. I'm not always diligent in draining the OPE fuel quickly after the season. Plus, one never knows when the last use of a snowthrower may be in the season. One gallon is all I've prepared.

There may also be the added benefit of running pure gasoline, as my old equipment was designed to run. I have a 40 year old snowthrower, 30 year old lawnmower, 30 year old chain saw, 20 year old leaf blower, and 20 year old generator. I'm not about to replace all this equipment for the sake of E10.

I may even consider doing this for my 41 year old car. Though I suspect it'll be cheaper to retune it properly.

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#2854165 - 12/31/12 08:51 PM Re: Making pure gas from E10? [Re: Kestas]
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Registered: 03/08/08
Posts: 157
Loc: MN, USA
Originally Posted By: Kestas

Pure gas isn't as easy to come by in Michigan as it is in Florida.


This site may help you.
pure-gas.org Michigan results 120 stations

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#2854676 - 01/01/13 12:05 PM Re: Making pure gas from E10? [Re: Kestas]
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I've been on that site many times. Most of the stations are at marinas. None are near me in Livonia. None are along any of my commutes. The closest station is listed across town in Allen Park and would cost me $10 in gas just to go there. Then there's the chance that if I go there, the listing could be a goof and there is no pure gas.

Go on that web site, pure-gas.org, and click on "map". Compare what you see at the Detroit area with the Minneapolis-St. Paul area and you'll apprieciate how difficult it is for me to find pure gas.

It's just so much easier and cheaper for me to wash premium fuel.

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#2861311 - 01/07/13 10:08 AM Re: Making pure gas from E10? [Re: Darkfire]
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Registered: 12/28/12
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Loc: Wixom, MI

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After I do all of the above I add 1 ounce of seafoam. If you still weren't comfortable with that you could add a small amount of iso-heet red bottle.
I guarantee that if anyone tries this that whatever you run it in will run noticeably better than on E10.

Even before any isopropyl is added, there is zero water visible at the bottom of the remaining gas that was just filtered. I confirmed this by dispensing it in a clear container and inspecting it.


Why would you remove alcohol from fuel just to add more alcohol?
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#2861849 - 01/07/13 05:54 PM Re: Making pure gas from E10? [Re: tig1]
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Registered: 12/31/12
Posts: 127
Loc: NNJ
Originally Posted By: tig1
Why would you want to do this?


Go to any Landscaping shop that repairs equipment and ask about Ethanol in fuel.
Apples to Oranges some may say...
But it does, at a minimum, cost MPG with E10 vs E0.

My handwritten numbers coincide within 0.02% of an App I use as well as the ScanGuages.

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#2951875 - 03/26/13 08:24 AM Re: Making pure gas from E10? [Re: Kestas]
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Registered: 02/26/13
Posts: 2396
Loc: Central Virginia
A good alternative is to run Lucas fuel treatment in your gas. It mixes with your gas and gives everything a slightly oily coating. Works well for lubing elec fuel pumps in your car. Mix 3 oz per 10 gal gas. You could also run the gas out of your small engines before putting them away for the winter.


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#2955890 - 03/29/13 07:38 PM Re: Making pure gas from E10? [Re: Kestas]
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Registered: 08/24/11
Posts: 9133
Loc: Boston, MA
Consumer Reports in the latest issue advocates buying eight buck a quart "pure gas" from Hagar's Dustbin and such places for OPE, and CU isn't often encouraging "free spending" on such things unless there is a reason.

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#2957450 - 03/31/13 09:24 AM Re: Making pure gas from E10? [Re: Silverado12]
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Registered: 08/24/11
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Loc: Boston, MA
Originally Posted By: Silverado12
A good alternative is to run Lucas fuel treatment in your gas. It mixes with your gas and gives everything a slightly oily coating. Works well for lubing elec fuel pumps in your car. Mix 3 oz per 10 gal gas. You could also run the gas out of your small engines before putting them away for the winter.
Lucas may do nothing more than coat the inside of a motorcycle fuel tank during storage, but that's enough reason for me to keep some around for the two wheel fleet.

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#2962391 - 04/04/13 04:29 PM Re: Making pure gas from E10? [Re: Kestas]
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Registered: 07/03/11
Posts: 939
Loc: TX
I just use Stabil generously and call it a day. Believe it or not the PP/PU and clean air filters have the biggest impact on my lawnmower. The Stabil keeps the gas fresh even into the next year, so I don't really stress about that part of the equation. It includes a carb cleaner and would stabilize even E0 gas...

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#2974242 - 04/16/13 08:21 AM Re: Making pure gas from E10? [Re: Kestas]
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Registered: 10/29/07
Posts: 1584
Loc: Auburn, GA
OK, question on the fuel washing - what do you do with the byproduct (water + ethanol)?? Can it be used for anything?
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#2975636 - 04/17/13 12:56 PM Re: Making pure gas from E10? [Re: Kestas]
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Registered: 07/03/11
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Loc: TX
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#3187780 - 11/14/13 03:51 PM Re: Making pure gas from E10? [Re: Kestas]
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Registered: 07/27/04
Posts: 2335
Loc: Frankfort, Kentucky
Washer fluid if there isn't any gas in it. The washer pump seals would swell fast enough if there was

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#3189185 - 11/16/13 05:42 AM Re: Making pure gas from E10? [Re: Kestas]
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Registered: 12/12/02
Posts: 35731
Loc: Oz
Shaman,
great thinking

methylated spirits is about $3-6 a litre here, the ethanol component of petrol 15c, or $1.50 neat

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#3194746 - 11/22/13 11:41 AM Re: Making pure gas from E10? [Re: Shannow]
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Registered: 10/01/05
Posts: 298
Loc: Newport News, VA
Washed gas works great in small engines.
What is washed out is alcohol and water, so then let it dry out in the air.
such as poured out on the driveway.

The government should make washing gasoline a punishable crime as it works so well and circumvents the EPA polluting the air rules.
If you see your neighbor doing these things, can't you call the EPA on them and get a reward for being a snitch?
I think the government encourages this behavior.

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