Would you still use 9 year old low mileage tires?
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Originally Posted By: Phishin
I'd run them. You guys act like if he blows out a tire on the highway at 75mph, his car is going to explode.
As long as you have a spare in your trunk, a jack, and a lug wrench, all is well.
Do you think that if he blew out one of the front tires at 75mph, that the car will automatically stay stable and easily drift over to the shoulder? It would be likely that he might lose control of the vehicle and possibly take out other cars in the process.
Are lives not worth more than $400 for a new set of tires? I'm a cheapskate, but not at the cost of safety.
I'd run them. You guys act like if he blows out a tire on the highway at 75mph, his car is going to explode.
As long as you have a spare in your trunk, a jack, and a lug wrench, all is well.
Do you think that if he blew out one of the front tires at 75mph, that the car will automatically stay stable and easily drift over to the shoulder? It would be likely that he might lose control of the vehicle and possibly take out other cars in the process.
Are lives not worth more than $400 for a new set of tires? I'm a cheapskate, but not at the cost of safety.
Personally I would run them without a second thought, but then I don't do much high speed driving. But I will say, In my almost 60 years of driving, I have had more trouble with new or almost new tires than old ones. Including blowouts! Back in "the good old days" when the speed limit was 55 mph, and I rarely drove over 65 mph, I used to run tires till the cord showed. No problem mon.
I'm going to keep running my 12 year old tires on my
BMW M Roadster, with only 2000 miles, always inside, N2 filled, and still look almost new, with no issues. As long as any one of them doesn't have an issue, I'll run them another year. I doubt one will just explode without some feedback first.
BMW M Roadster, with only 2000 miles, always inside, N2 filled, and still look almost new, with no issues. As long as any one of them doesn't have an issue, I'll run them another year. I doubt one will just explode without some feedback first.
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sure. use 'em.
Originally Posted By: Traction
I'm going to keep running my 12 year old tires on my
BMW M Roadster, with only 2000 miles, always inside, N2 filled, and still look almost new, with no issues. As long as any one of them doesn't have an issue, I'll run them another year. I doubt one will just explode without some feedback first.
Wow, I thought I didn't drive my Z3 M Roadster very much. I think I've put 1400 miles on it in 2 years. BTW, be sure to tell the tire monkey when you do get new tires that those tires need to be mounted/dismounted reverse (from the backsides) because they're deep dished rims.
I'm going to keep running my 12 year old tires on my
BMW M Roadster, with only 2000 miles, always inside, N2 filled, and still look almost new, with no issues. As long as any one of them doesn't have an issue, I'll run them another year. I doubt one will just explode without some feedback first.
Wow, I thought I didn't drive my Z3 M Roadster very much. I think I've put 1400 miles on it in 2 years. BTW, be sure to tell the tire monkey when you do get new tires that those tires need to be mounted/dismounted reverse (from the backsides) because they're deep dished rims.
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Originally Posted By: Traction
I'm going to keep running my 12 year old tires on my
BMW M Roadster, with only 2000 miles, always inside, N2 filled, and still look almost new, with no issues. As long as any one of them doesn't have an issue, I'll run them another year. I doubt one will just explode without some feedback first.
All that money for a car that never gets driven? Poor thing.
I'm going to keep running my 12 year old tires on my
BMW M Roadster, with only 2000 miles, always inside, N2 filled, and still look almost new, with no issues. As long as any one of them doesn't have an issue, I'll run them another year. I doubt one will just explode without some feedback first.
All that money for a car that never gets driven? Poor thing.
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Originally Posted By: eljefino
If you're really gonna scrap them drill some holes through the sidewall. Otherwise they'll be on the car next to you.
I'll probably just mount the wheels and drive to Discount Tire and have them swap em out for new tires. They tell me they can't sell tires that are beyond a few years old.
Their tech will swipe them under the table and sell em on craigslist. Or the used tire guy will paw through them, ditto. Best case they wind up in a container, shipped to a 3rd world country.
Originally Posted By: eljefino
If you're really gonna scrap them drill some holes through the sidewall. Otherwise they'll be on the car next to you.
I'll probably just mount the wheels and drive to Discount Tire and have them swap em out for new tires. They tell me they can't sell tires that are beyond a few years old.
Their tech will swipe them under the table and sell em on craigslist. Or the used tire guy will paw through them, ditto. Best case they wind up in a container, shipped to a 3rd world country.
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Originally Posted By: Traction
I'm going to keep running my 12 year old tires on my
BMW M Roadster, with only 2000 miles, always inside, N2 filled, and still look almost new, with no issues. As long as any one of them doesn't have an issue, I'll run them another year. I doubt one will just explode without some feedback first.
All that money for a car that never gets driven? Poor thing.
Oops, I meant 2000 miles on the tires, the car is a 2000 with 72kmi. Still doesn't get driven enough though.
Originally Posted By: Traction
I'm going to keep running my 12 year old tires on my
BMW M Roadster, with only 2000 miles, always inside, N2 filled, and still look almost new, with no issues. As long as any one of them doesn't have an issue, I'll run them another year. I doubt one will just explode without some feedback first.
All that money for a car that never gets driven? Poor thing.
Oops, I meant 2000 miles on the tires, the car is a 2000 with 72kmi. Still doesn't get driven enough though.
I bought a '70 Grand Prix with 23K miles on it from an old man who bought it new. It still had the original bias tires on it. The year was 1987. I burned them up one at a time on the open rear. That 400 had no sympathy for such inferior rubber.
They didn't last long, but they endured great abuse with no issues. Contrast that with the two year old Firestones that suffered shifted belts (2 out of 4) on my '01 Taurus wagon. A babied car if thereever was one. I simply don't buy that age alone is a reliable indicator of tire safety. I would have no qualms about running 9 year old tires that had been stored properly and showed no signs of deterioration. Sounds to me like industry scare tactics to convince people to replace their tires more frequently.
They didn't last long, but they endured great abuse with no issues. Contrast that with the two year old Firestones that suffered shifted belts (2 out of 4) on my '01 Taurus wagon. A babied car if thereever was one. I simply don't buy that age alone is a reliable indicator of tire safety. I would have no qualms about running 9 year old tires that had been stored properly and showed no signs of deterioration. Sounds to me like industry scare tactics to convince people to replace their tires more frequently.
What pottymouth said
Tires that are under 10 years old that have been stored properly and show no signs of deterioration, I'd run them in a heartbeat.
If I lived down south and they had been exposed to significant sunlight, I may think differently, but in the north, no.
That being said, I'd be budgeting for replacements and be grateful for whatever I was able to get out of them.
If I lived down south and they had been exposed to significant sunlight, I may think differently, but in the north, no.
That being said, I'd be budgeting for replacements and be grateful for whatever I was able to get out of them.
Just so everyone understands:
The rubber in tires deteriorates over time. It is highly temperature dependent. That's why many folks recommend replacing tires when they are 6 years old. My best estimate is that those recommendations are based on the weather in Phoenix.
But those of us who track tire failures know that cooler parts of the world don't have as high of failure rates - nor do those failures occur as quickly. Nevertheless, most tire manufacturers recommend replacing tires at 10 years of age.
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Everyone should be aware that a tire failure at high speed CAN result in a fatality! The risk of that happening is low, but it is there regardless. While it may appear alarmist to harp about old tires, it's that severe consequence that is driving the concern.
The rubber in tires deteriorates over time. It is highly temperature dependent. That's why many folks recommend replacing tires when they are 6 years old. My best estimate is that those recommendations are based on the weather in Phoenix.
But those of us who track tire failures know that cooler parts of the world don't have as high of failure rates - nor do those failures occur as quickly. Nevertheless, most tire manufacturers recommend replacing tires at 10 years of age.
- AND -
Everyone should be aware that a tire failure at high speed CAN result in a fatality! The risk of that happening is low, but it is there regardless. While it may appear alarmist to harp about old tires, it's that severe consequence that is driving the concern.
Originally Posted By: CapriRacer
Just so everyone understands:
The rubber in tires deteriorates over time. It is highly temperature dependent. That's why many folks recommend replacing tires when they are 6 years old. My best estimate is that those recommendations are based on the weather in Phoenix.
But those of us who track tire failures know that cooler parts of the world don't have as high of failure rates - nor do those failures occur as quickly. Nevertheless, most tire manufacturers recommend replacing tires at 10 years of age.
- AND -
Everyone should be aware that a tire failure at high speed CAN result in a fatality! The risk of that happening is low, but it is there regardless. While it may appear alarmist to harp about old tires, it's that severe consequence that is driving the concern.
I'm sure you can understand that some of us are a bit skeptical of such recommendations from the very companies that benefit from the replacement of tires based on age alone.
It would be useful to see data on tire failure (particularly if compiled by a more objective third party)that included all relevant factors in the failure. A 15 year old tire that fails did not necessarily fail due to its age. Speed, inflation, loading, road damage, chemical exposure, improper mounting/repair, etc. are all contributory (if not primary) causes of failure. Do you have any such data to share?
Just so everyone understands:
The rubber in tires deteriorates over time. It is highly temperature dependent. That's why many folks recommend replacing tires when they are 6 years old. My best estimate is that those recommendations are based on the weather in Phoenix.
But those of us who track tire failures know that cooler parts of the world don't have as high of failure rates - nor do those failures occur as quickly. Nevertheless, most tire manufacturers recommend replacing tires at 10 years of age.
- AND -
Everyone should be aware that a tire failure at high speed CAN result in a fatality! The risk of that happening is low, but it is there regardless. While it may appear alarmist to harp about old tires, it's that severe consequence that is driving the concern.
I'm sure you can understand that some of us are a bit skeptical of such recommendations from the very companies that benefit from the replacement of tires based on age alone.
It would be useful to see data on tire failure (particularly if compiled by a more objective third party)that included all relevant factors in the failure. A 15 year old tire that fails did not necessarily fail due to its age. Speed, inflation, loading, road damage, chemical exposure, improper mounting/repair, etc. are all contributory (if not primary) causes of failure. Do you have any such data to share?
Condition trumps age.
I'd use an as new 10 year old tyre before I'd use a bald & dry rotted 3 year old tyre.
I'd use an as new 10 year old tyre before I'd use a bald & dry rotted 3 year old tyre.
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