Wix 51356 [CUT OPEN]

[cp3]

Wix 51356 from my buddy's '02 Civic. Another solid Wix offering but boy these are small! This was in service for about a year and a half but not a lot of mileage. Again, I do believe some of the grit in the can is from the engine, not just from cutting.

 

[ltslimjim]

That's the P1 PL14610 equivalent right? It looks really nice.

 

[OilNerd]

My wife's Altima (wrecked) used to use that dinky filter size. I don't miss it!

Nice pics, thanks.

 

[k1rod]

Very nice! A quality filter that shows the pride of workmanship that went into it. I never hesitate to use a Wix / Napa Gold filter. Thanks for posting the photos!

 

[david_ES2]

Ive cut one of these open too, looked the same, construction is solid, adbv is just as sturdy as the mobil1 filters, i almost wanna call it a top tier filter without the price tag

 

[gfh77665]

Originally Posted By: OilNerd

used to use that dinky filter size. I don't miss it!


I know it's counterintuitive, but smaller filters will load sooner, increasing efficiency. The drawback is less extended interval capabilities. They filter better, but for a shorter time.

 

[cp3]

But don't the Honda's that spec these call for a filter change every other OCI?

 

[volk06]

Originally Posted By: gfh77665
Originally Posted By: OilNerd

used to use that dinky filter size. I don't miss it!


I know it's counterintuitive, but smaller filters will load sooner, increasing efficiency. The drawback is less extended interval capabilities. They filter better, but for a shorter time.


Is there any proof to your statement about a smaller filter having less in service time? I bet that filter could easily go 10K with not issues. Filter size is not everything, usually those filters have a lower efficiency rated a 40 microns instead of 20. Its all about the surface area inside the filter, different brands of filters have different surface areas...aka the number of pleats and materal makes a big difference.

 

[gfh77665]

I don't have a quantitative study handy to copy & paste for you to "prove" it, but yes as I read around filter info from numerous sources, as a filter loads it's efficiency increases, -- up to a point.

At some point it will obviously load too much, thats why the bypass feature exists. The small filter has capability to go a long way, I do 7500 mile OCI's with a tiny Honda filter. However, the canister size alone limits a tiny filters holding capacity, regardless of pleat number or micron rating.

At some point it will fill up, sooner than a large filter would, but it did a better job in the mean time.

 

[volk06]

Originally Posted By: gfh77665
I don't have a quantitative study handy to copy & paste for you to "prove" it, but yes as I read around filter info from numerous sources, as a filter loads it's efficiency increases, -- up to a point.

At some point it will obviously load too much, thats why the bypass feature exists. The small filter has capability to go a long way, I do 7500 mile OCI's with a tiny Honda filter. However, the canister size alone limits a tiny filters holding capacity, regardless of pleat number or micron rating.

At some point it will fill up, sooner than a large filter would, but it did a better job in the mean time.


On the contrary, more pleats in a small area = more surface area. If you have a clean engine its highly unlikely you will load up the filter to the point of not filtering on an 10k OCI or less.

 

[gfh77665]

More pleats crammed into a tiny filter = less free holding space between the folds. Again, it's capacity is ultimately limited by the raw size of the canister, regardless of the number of pleats. In fact, more pleats means less voids, which means even less holding capacity.

As far as it being "unlikely" to fill up in 10K, you should see some pics of some of the Toyota engines that are known for sludging. No way would 10K be advisable, especially with a tiny filter on.

 

[volk06]

Originally Posted By: gfh77665
More pleats crammed into a tiny filter = less free holding space between the folds. Again, it's capacity is ultimately limited by the raw size of the canister, regardless of the number of pleats. In fact, more pleats means less voids, which means even less holding capacity.

As far as it being "unlikely" to fill up in 10K, you should see some pics of some of the Toyota engines that are known for sludging. No way would 10K be advisable, especially with a tiny filter on.


If you notice, I did state a clean engine. A sludger is not what I'd consider a clean engine. Can you be more specific on what you mean on voids. Are you talking empty space before the oil hits the element, or the space just in between the pleats.

 

[dgee]

nice looking filter. thanks for the pic