seeing as even a full syn oil change is equal to or less than a full tank of gas for most people. Is a syn blend really any better than a modern dino assuming a 5000 mile change? I guess what I really meant to ask was, are there any real benefits? Better cold starts, cleaner engine, better heat protection? I know Maxlife is a blend, but I think it's more in a class all it's own. Maybe not, but still a little different animal than your typical syn blend. Just a question out of curiosity in the quest for knowledge.
With money not being an option...
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IMHO, no. Want regular oil, use regular, want synthetic, use synthetic. If you really want a blend, pick your favorite brand, buy half of their regular oil and half of their full synthetic, mix together, then you have a 50/50 blend. Not a 88/12 blend.
Yes syn oil is better if you keep the vehicle past 100,000 miles. The real benefits are realized at 150-250,000 miles for a lot of engines when it comes down to reduced wear and cleanliness. If you trade your car before 100k don't bother.
Another major benefit to syn oil is for people who pay no attention to their cars and run low on oil or way past normal oil change intervals. Syn oils will give you some measure of reserve protection from boneheads who suddenly realize they forgot to change their oil last year.
Another major benefit to syn oil is for people who pay no attention to their cars and run low on oil or way past normal oil change intervals. Syn oils will give you some measure of reserve protection from boneheads who suddenly realize they forgot to change their oil last year.
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With a normal daily driver, if you are going to stay at 5K changes and not experience temp extremes, I'd say there is no benefit to syn(or syn blend). Even with the temp extremes, I'd be more worried about extreme cold (IMO, less than -20*F)flow than operating a quality dino in extreme heat.
Until I scored on Q-Torque and Horsepower (and some Pennzoil Platinum), all I ever used was dino. IMO, it's more important to change your oil, than what oil you run. Quality dino every 5K, help keeps the mechanic away.
Until I scored on Q-Torque and Horsepower (and some Pennzoil Platinum), all I ever used was dino. IMO, it's more important to change your oil, than what oil you run. Quality dino every 5K, help keeps the mechanic away.
twig -
Most 5-20s are blends, in order to pass the tough specs for them.
And most cars now take 5-20, it seems.
But you state costs for full synthetics, but then ask about dino vs. blends.
What do you want to know?
Most 5-20s are blends, in order to pass the tough specs for them.
And most cars now take 5-20, it seems.
But you state costs for full synthetics, but then ask about dino vs. blends.
What do you want to know?
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since theres no benefit, does that mean the synthetic blend can not go for a longer OCI then just a regular conventional?
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That's my point. Is there any real benefit to an off the shelf blend? Or is it just marketing? I see none in the UOA's. MC is great product, but it's the same price and doesn't do any better than PYB or Hav or fill in the blank. Just curius as to what drives the market. Marketing, Duh. My wife's truck gets a full syn because her comute is 55 mph for 2.7 miles door to door. Whe would ride a bike, but that would be a little dangerous on our road. She also learned how to drive from her dad, fast.
Me on the other hand. I drive a 84 volvo wagon filled with Havoline 5w20, A 88 chevy one ton flatbed farm truck, carbed, filled with Havoline 10w40 winter/Delo 15w40 rest of year, and a 64 ford falcon, carbed and only driven occasionally. No need for full syn. Not going to try put that many miles on any of those. Well, maybe the volvo. I go back and forth with it. Just have a hard time trying to make myself do 7500 - 10000 mile changes.
Just curious and bored at work. The rain gives those of us in construction a slow day.
That's my point. Is there any real benefit to an off the shelf blend? Or is it just marketing? I see none in the UOA's. MC is great product, but it's the same price and doesn't do any better than PYB or Hav or fill in the blank. Just curius as to what drives the market. Marketing, Duh. My wife's truck gets a full syn because her comute is 55 mph for 2.7 miles door to door. Whe would ride a bike, but that would be a little dangerous on our road. She also learned how to drive from her dad, fast.
Me on the other hand. I drive a 84 volvo wagon filled with Havoline 5w20, A 88 chevy one ton flatbed farm truck, carbed, filled with Havoline 10w40 winter/Delo 15w40 rest of year, and a 64 ford falcon, carbed and only driven occasionally. No need for full syn. Not going to try put that many miles on any of those. Well, maybe the volvo. I go back and forth with it. Just have a hard time trying to make myself do 7500 - 10000 mile changes.
Just curious and bored at work. The rain gives those of us in construction a slow day.
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Agreed Johnny. I've always felt one is better off to make their own. I'm a dino user with the ocassional syn thrown in for sh**s and giggles. I buy used vehicles and drive till the doors fall off.
I feel the same way.
Agreed Johnny. I've always felt one is better off to make their own. I'm a dino user with the ocassional syn thrown in for sh**s and giggles. I buy used vehicles and drive till the doors fall off.
I feel the same way.
if money isn't an issue then full syn all the way
if you have a special application like high mileage with seal issues then using Maxlife is good but so is using a dino high mileage oil like Pennzoil High Mileage
the difference between the best conventionals and the typical synthetic blend is so different that it's no surprise to me that PYB and MC Syn Blend as so close in price
if you have a special application like high mileage with seal issues then using Maxlife is good but so is using a dino high mileage oil like Pennzoil High Mileage
the difference between the best conventionals and the typical synthetic blend is so different that it's no surprise to me that PYB and MC Syn Blend as so close in price
stick with dino especially with 5koci's!! Your engine will not notice the difference especially where you stay. I'm in Alabama so we both get the same type of weather. I do 5k oci's and my engine has only seen dino so I don't agree with the poster above saying you will tell the difference with older mileage cars. My car still runs great with the cheapest dino being Napa 5w30 that has ever gone in that baby!
if it makes me feel better, i'll use at least a blend.
With money not being an option I'll hire mechtech2 full time and let him take care of my car rather than worrying about what oil I should be using.
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