Why Scientists Won't Discuss Their UFO Interests

[PandaBear]

Personally, I believe most of the UFO sighting reported are hoax or questionable observation of other stuff (i.e. natural phenomenon or military tests of unreleased black op equipment). However I wouldn't discount all of them and believe it is possible (not probable) to have UFO and aliens.

Most other cultures think of ghost and devils instead of aliens and UFO. Americans tend to think of UFO and aliens. Wonder why?

 

[buster]

Originally Posted By: PandaBear
Personally, I believe most of the UFO sighting reported are hoax or questionable observation of other stuff (i.e. natural phenomenon or military tests of unreleased black op equipment). However I wouldn't discount all of them and believe it is possible (not probable) to have UFO and aliens.

Most other cultures think of ghost and devils instead of aliens and UFO. Americans tend to think of UFO and aliens. Wonder why?


That is where I stand as well. I need proof.

I do lean towards believing there is something going on that humans have been seeing that is not of this earth. Just my gut feeling and overall opinion based on all the articles/videos I read.

98% are explainable, usually.

 

[buster]

LOL

Tall Whites.

 

[buster]

 

[d00df00d]

Anyone else slightly puzzled by the fact that the term "UFO" has become synonymous with "alien craft?" It's as though people think "I don't know what it is, so it must be aliens."

Sounds silly when you put it that way, but that kind of thinking happens a lot...

 

[Shannow]

And once explained, they aren't "UFO"s anymore...they are identified.

 

[buster]

Originally Posted By: d00df00d
Anyone else slightly puzzled by the fact that the term "UFO" has become synonymous with "alien craft?" It's as though people think "I don't know what it is, so it must be aliens."

Sounds silly when you put it that way, but that kind of thinking happens a lot...


It really does. I can't stand that. UFO means Unidentified Flying Object, NOT, alien spaceship. LOL

This stuff can get very kooky very quickly. You have to sift through it carefully and even then, questions remain. There simply is no proof available to us.

 

[Warstud]

You dont have to try to convince me. I'll be the first one here to admit that I have seen them. Not just lights in the night sky but actual day time sightings of different types of craft. The latest ones are these hovering planes. I'm calling them UFO's because there able to hover in mid-air.

 

[Shannow]

Originally Posted By: Warstud
The latest ones are these hovering planes.


Very reminiscent of the plane in the Jon Shannow novels...

I like the "glitch in the matrix" concept.

 

[KenO]

Government. My great uncle retired from the US Army as Lt. Colonel, and anytime the UFO subject would be brought up he would simply stop talking. Wouldn't respond, debunk, nothing. Silence. He knew something. I believe our military has not only had contact with outer space, but that they've developed relationships outside of our world.


I also believe there's a strong possibility that the ancient Egyptians, Mayans, etc. had help - there's no plausible explanation for how ANY of those structures were built with what they had at the time. The only suggestion that IS plausible is what a friend told me once - he thinks they learned how to 'turn stone into liquid' and that those rocks were poured, much like how we pour concrete today.

 

[Mystic]

There are ruins in South America that simply cannot be explained very easily. When the Spanish arrived they were told by the native peoples that their ancestors had not built the ruins but the 'gods' had built it. It would have required diamond drills to make the precision cuts in the very hard stones. Much harder stones than the limestone the Egyptians were mostly working with.

There are foundation stones for some ruins in the Middle East that weight 1000 to 1500 tons for EACH STONE! Even with today's technology it would have been very difficult to move those stones.

There are a lot of deep mysteries. Those mysteries will not be solved unless field research is permitted. Somebody sitting in a university office is not going to solve those mysteries.

So until the people in power are gone and replaced by new people there will probably be little progress. A famous scientist once said that science advances one death at a time.

Scientists are people the same as anybody else and they do not want their theories to be overturned and their books to become irrelevant.

In the schools they may still be having the children sing 'In 1492 Columbus sailed the ocean blue...' Well, he did, but the Vikings at least were here long before that. And it is likely there were various people reaching the Americas long before them. So someday the books will have to be rewritten.

If any of the UFOs are in fact alien spacecraft than scientists are missing one of the most important events in human history.

 

[d00df00d]

Originally Posted By: Mystic
Scientists are people the same as anybody else and they do not want their theories to be overturned and their books to become irrelevant.

Of course that's how they feel about their OWN theories. But they LOVE to destroy OTHER scientists' theories. One of the most glamorous and momentous things a scientist can do is overturn something that everyone else believes. You don't win any points for confirming what people already know; you win points for revealing that everyone else is ignorant or wrong.

People who don't understand science (including many science teachers, incidentally) treat it like this big monolith that hands down edicts like a church. It's more like the Hunger Games where a bunch of ideas are dumped into a closed space and have to fight it out until one remains -- and then it gets thrown into another arena and has to do it all over again. When one rises to the top and survives multiple challenges, the one thing everyone wants is to see it knocked off its pedestal.

 

[buster]

I remain a huge skeptic as I have not seen definitive proof. However, I'm willing to accept that there are things that go one and have gone on that I can not fully grasp or identify with.

 

[Mystic]

Is that the reason d00df00d that very few scientists study UFOs? And is that the reason a geologist who has made several discoveries about various groups potentially having been in the Americas long before Columbus has run into so much opposition and even been denied entry into certain areas?

I do think there is enough evidence to justify scientific research into UFOs. If even one of the mysterious UFOs that has been observed is actually an alien spacecraft the scientist who makes that discovery will live forever in the history books. But the way things are going right now a scientist would not be the one to make the discovery.

 

[andrewg]

Of course, as outlined in an earlier post, UFO's do exist. The question of what they ARE, is rather a question of the individual sighting. One may be explainable as some sort of mirage or misinterpretation....while another may be completely unexplainable. Are ANY of these alien craft? I highly doubt it. Why would any seemingly intelligent being, able to have advanced to an ability to travel great distances in the void of space....spend perhaps hundreds of years (or thousands...whenever the supposed first sightings have occurred) to 'watch' us or 'study' us? Haven't 'they' learned enough already, especially if they are so advanced? Why make multiple 'visits'? Why no contact in all these years? And if these supposed aliens exist...why haven't they either destroyed us or exploited our planet in some way? Too many unanswered questions. Not only that, but using reason as our guide, one can really only come to the conclusion that UFO's are just...well...UFO's (with zero evidence that these things derive from deep space).

 

[d00df00d]

Originally Posted By: Mystic
Is that the reason d00df00d that very few scientists study UFOs?

They study UFOs all the time.

Most of the time, they come back with completely reasonable explanations. These explanations are either ignored or dismissed as cover-ups. The rest of the time, they rightly say there's not enough evidence to make any call, and UFOlogists claim victory.

Heads = UFOlogists win
Tails = science loses

 

[d00df00d]

Originally Posted By: andrewg
Of course, as outlined in an earlier post, UFO's do exist. The question of what they ARE, is rather a question of the individual sighting. One may be explainable as some sort of mirage or misinterpretation....while another may be completely unexplainable. Are ANY of these alien craft? I highly doubt it. Why would any seemingly intelligent being, able to have advanced to an ability to travel great distances in the void of space....spend perhaps hundreds of years (or thousands...whenever the supposed first sightings have occurred) to 'watch' us or 'study' us? Haven't 'they' learned enough already, especially if they are so advanced? Why make multiple 'visits'? Why no contact in all these years? And if these supposed aliens exist...why haven't they either destroyed us or exploited our planet in some way? Too many unanswered questions. Not only that, but using reason as our guide, one can really only come to the conclusion that UFO's are just...well...UFO's (with zero evidence that these things derive from deep space).

Bingo. Well said.

 

[MolaKule]

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I also believe there's a strong possibility that the ancient Egyptians, Mayans, etc. had help - there's no plausible explanation for how ANY of those structures were built with what they had at the time. The only suggestion that IS plausible is what a friend told me once - he thinks they learned how to 'turn stone into liquid' and that those rocks were poured, much like how we pour concrete today.


There are plenty of plausible explanations. Many have been shown on various media outlets.

One is that our ancestors were much more intelligent than conventional theories allows.

We are finding out everyday that what was thought to be a mystery, now turns out to be that our ancestors had knowledge of mechanics, mathematics, and basic physics.

Another is that much of the knowledge our ancestors possessed was lost.

 

[Mystic]

Not true d00df00d. Very few scientists study UFOs and some of the few who have done so have paid a heavy price in their careers.

There is likely to be some sort of important scientific pay off in UFO research even if no alien spacecraft have visited the Earth and if we are just dealing with some sort of strange unknown natural phenomena. But it is not likely that a scientist will discover this. Probably ordinary people will make the discovery just like in the past ordinary country people discovered meteorites and not scientists.

People actually willing to go out and do research make the discoveries.

 

[KrisZ]

Mystic, regarding the ancient buildings, we went over this in quite some detail in another thread, but you seem to be very resilient to the evidence that was provided to you. Scientists and archeologists actually visited a lot of these sites and found tools and even plenty of stones in various states of progress right on site. They found stone queries where the rocks were carved from along with simple tools.
Yet you keep harping on and on how only lasers, diamonds and gravity lifts could carve and lift these monuments, where there is an abundance of evidence that ancient people did it by themselves.

Same thing is with UFO's. All sorts of logical evidence and explanations can be presented, and sure as heck they were in a lot of cases, but this will never sway the "believers" that those UFO's are not alien. There is no sense in trying anymore, especially in this internet age when most will believe a stupid youtube video more than any scientific evidence or published documents.