Why Scientists Won't Discuss Their UFO Interests

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I believe in the scientific method. I need to see proof. Proof is interesting though. We know gravity exists, but we can't see it. I spent the last few months watching videos from Steven Greer among others on this topic. While I can't prove it, I have changed my stance and now believe things go on that we can not conceive of yet.

Ants dont' know dogs exist. If we are only a type 1 civilization, it is certainly possible there are other far more highly evolved advanced cvilizations in our galazy alone. I've heard figures as high as 100,000.

This article though is interesting because it is true that this is a very taboo topic among scientists. There are no doubt a lot of kooks in this area, but I think a small% are on to something.

If nothing else it's an entertaining subject. It's good to get your mind off daily boring serious topics now and then.

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They're wrong, naive, stubborn, narrow-minded, afraid and fearful. It's a dirty word and a forbidden topic. Science is about open-minded inquiry. You shouldn't be laughing off people. You should show more deference and respect to them ... Scientists need to get back to using the scientific method to study things that are unknown and unusual, and the UFO subject is one of them."



There are over 550 former military/NASA and gov. officials that acknowledge the existance of ET's.

Either they are all lying, or what they think the are seeing is something of earth origin.
 
There's a glowy flying thing in the skies up the Midcoast of Maine. Not from BNAS, they're closed. Saw it when I was a kid. Was visiting, saw it again recently. Showed my wife, a scientist, she saw it too. Couldn't ID it. Is hard to get a fix on its distance and speed-- could be a drone, I guess.

But why would they put running lights on it? To keep lousy Earth pilots from crashing into it?
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I feel no need to prove or disprove their existence.

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Probably due to the fear of ridicule by their colleagues and a keep it hush hush or else by their superiors. I like the documented UFO sightings by multiple 'expert witnesses' and verified by radar such as the following. This would be extremely difficult to fake or even replicate.
 
I definitely have the need to prove their existance simply because it would be the most extrodinary discovery of all time. I remain a skeptic with a big, open mind.
 
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I like the documented UFO sightings by multiple 'expert witnesses' and verified by radar such as the following. This would be extremely difficult to fake or even replicate.


Me too. I usually only try and watch/listen to people that have some proven credibility. Former pilots, military/airforce etc.

Sure, most of it is people trying to make a quick buck and people that like hoaxes. Also natural events. However, there is a small % that have no explanation.
 
Originally Posted By: eljefino
There's a glowy flying thing in the skies up the Midcoast of Maine. Not from BNAS, they're closed. Saw it when I was a kid. Was visiting, saw it again recently. Showed my wife, a scientist, she saw it too. Couldn't ID it. Is hard to get a fix on its distance and speed-- could be a drone, I guess.

But why would they put running lights on it? To keep lousy Earth pilots from crashing into it?
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I feel no need to prove or disprove their existence.

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Maybe it's the same thing these guys saw

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Allagash_Abductions

I spent 5 hours talking to Jack Weiner about his experience last year. He seemed very sincere.
 
My favorite thing about the universe is that it is never ending. Everything in our lives has a boundary but space doesn't! That alone makes me believe there has to other life forms somewhere. Whether or not we will ever discover them or them discover us is a total guess.
 
There is a big difference between being a skeptic and a debunker. A scientist or anyone else should be skeptical but a debunker will try to disprove any UFO report regardless of any evidence. Right now the powers that be in the scientific community will not allow scientific research into UFOs. So any scientist who tries to study UFOs will face consequences.

I can understand why a lot of scientists do not want to study UFOs. There are a lot of nut cases in that field of research and the scientists don't want to have anything to do with the nut cases.

However, anybody who thinks there is not good evidence for UFOs available apparently has been living under a rock. Or hiding in the university offices and refusing to do any field research. Usually it takes filed research to find out if something is true or not.

Anybody who thinks that pilots, military generals, government officials, reporters, etc., have not seen and studied UFOs might want to read two books that I can recommend. 'UFOs' by Leslie Kean and 'UFOs, myths, conspiracies, and realities' by John B. Alexander, PhD. You can probably find those books at a library or a Barnes & Noble Store. If somebody can read those two books and still say no evidence exists for UFOs than that person is a debunker. And not a scientist.
 
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They are artificial objects under intelligent control. They're definitely the craft of a supremely advanced technology,"


How can a scientist make such an emphatic statement without proof?

I am not a debunker but I guess I fall into the skeptic classification and will remain a skeptic until I see some physical proof of alien existence.

In the meantime, I think much of the UFO stuff is plasmonic in origin.

Unfortunatley, too many scientists slide into the Von Danniken sphere in order to get on TV, YouTube, or write a book.
 
Ants do know dogs exist, they make the ground shake, and smell like a dog, and probably they can hear them as well. They can't explain what a dog is, but they know its there.
But I think the sheer size of the universe means detection of another civilization is very unlikely. We could only detect ourselves from something like 5 lightyears away if we knew exactly where to look...
And I assume we are very noisy now, compared to what we will be in just 100 years.
I suspect that unless we are unfortunate enough to be in the way of an interstellar bypass, or figure out a warp drive, we will never meet another civilization, which is probably best for our long term survival.
 
For the most part i"m a seeing is believing guy,
but on this topic i look at it like this
If we are here, why would it not be possible for life to exist elsewhere.
 
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If we are here, why would it not be possible for life to exist elsewhere.


So far, we have not found any other worlds with just the right conditions to sustain life as we know it.
 
Originally Posted By: MolaKule
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If we are here, why would it not be possible for life to exist elsewhere.


So far, we have not found any other worlds with just the right conditions to sustain life as we know it.


Key phrases, "so far" and "as we know it".
 
Originally Posted By: buster
We know gravity exists, but we can't see it.

This is false except in the most trivial possible sense. We can measure gravity quite easily by a variety of methods. The fact that we can't see gravity itself with our eyes doesn't mean we can't "see" it in a practical sense.
 
A scientist once said something long ago that sticks with me today. He said, "It's hard to believe we have a bunch of aliens circling the sky, popping up here and there teasing us with their presence, yet they aren't trying to make contact with us in a serious manner."
 
Originally Posted By: Kestas
A scientist once said something long ago that sticks with me today. He said, "It's hard to believe we have a bunch of aliens circling the sky, popping up here and there teasing us with their presence, yet they aren't trying to make contact with us in a serious manner."


A slightly more fatalistic version:

"It's hard to believe aliens would waste time toying with us when they could be plundering our natural resources."
 
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Originally Posted By: MolaKule
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If we are here, why would it not be possible for life to exist elsewhere.


So far, we have not found any other worlds with just the right conditions to sustain life as we know it.


Actually,

http://news.discovery.com/space/alien-li...star-130625.htm




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However, we can only estimate the physical sizes by assuming certain compositions that is, well, only educated guessing.


Finally, an honest scientist.
 
Don't it seem like those alien tv segments are growing... like are they trying to prep the public for the good/bad news?
There was a new one on last night... don't recall the name.
Art Bell/George Noory (Coast to Coast) been at it for years on the radio.


Me eyes get'n older so never believe anything even if I can't say what I saw. Would probably have to get a hold of one of those critters by the neck then hit em hard on the head with a hammer or rock then decide by its reaction.
Like Bigfoot. When will someone finally shoot the knee cap off one then drag it to the front of the mall for display. At least send the hounds at em.
 
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