Why do most of you do an OCI of over 3K???

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... I don't believe that in any car manual, read this carefully, where it would absolutely state that Syn can extend your OCI's...




What in this that you do not understand ?
"The alleged problem with the FSS occurs when the driver uses conventional oil instead of synthetic oil. Typically the FSS recommends oil changes somewhere between 10,000 and 20,000 miles with a 12,000-mile average depending on each vehicle's operation and driving conditions, but CONVENTIONAL OIL will allegedly cause engine damage when used for FSS recommended drain intervals. In March 2001, Mercedes-Benz sent all vehicle owners a letter that strongly recommended switching over to pure synthetic oils for all FSS-equipped vehicles to prevent excessive oil consumption and oil sludging."
 
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You guys are wasting your time with Greasball. He's obviously one of those people who's attitude is: "Don't bother me with the facts; I've already made up my mind."
I've found out over my many years that its a waste of time to give advice when its clear that the advice is not even going to be considered, much less followed. I now will give a piece of advice only once, and if the person doesn't listen, I let them wallow in their ignorance .




Excellent post! I absolutely agree. Also good point HTSS_TR
 
I don't need advice, I can read an owners manual. I also have service manuals for every car I own. Obviously if a manufacturer recommends specifics, you follow it. I'm just trying to do the interval period better. Maybe some day I will buy one of those new fangled auto-mobiles that most of you have and go 75K before I have to change the oil.
 
I'm surprised at you 'oldman' I would think you are more sensible than most, probably retired...now tell me if I didn't get that one right? .....the weekend begins....
 
Still don't have anything to say about actual factual evidence which totally contradicts your opinion, Greasball???

My challenge is still open and unanswered.

I don't want anyone to say we didn't offer you a fair chance -- once again, click here and see my 13 month, 10k mile UOA.

Show us one fact in my UOA that suggests I should have dumped this oil earlier.

For the record, I'll note that you've ignored this challenge twice now. I can only assume you have nothing at all to back up what you post. Your credibility here is yours to save. . . But I'm not holding my breath.
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I don't need advice, I can read an owners manual. I also have service manuals for every car I own. Obviously if a manufacturer recommends specifics, you follow it. I'm just trying to do the interval period better. Maybe some day I will buy one of those new fangled auto-mobiles that most of you have and go 75K before I have to change the oil.




You need professional advice. Please do show us an owner's manual that prescribes 2,000 mile oil change intervals. . .
 
What about Mori's A4 on 10k intervals, totally freaking clean internals. So, that means everything you've said is WRONG Greaseball. Comprende?
 
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I'm surprised at you 'oldman' I would think you are more sensible than most, probably retired...now tell me if I didn't get that one right? .....the weekend begins....




NOPE! You got that wrong, TOO! I am NOT retired, and I'm not too old to recognize a bunch of ** when I see it.

Personally I'm still waiting for you to explain why my Ford Van with 190K miles has not self destructed from my "extended" OCI. I ask you again to explain it. No - those are NOT all highway miles only about 20-30 percent at best, and in southern ca. freeway miles are the equivalent to or worse than "city" driving.

I have EVERY oil change I've ever done to this thing documented, and I have all my receipts nicely filed in my desk drawer. I can tell you the exact mile and date, brand, weight and brand of oil and filter I did on each and every change (aren't computers wonderful?)

According to your thinking, this vehicle should have NEVER made it 100K, much less 190K. By the way, give me your email address I'll send you an email when I hit 250K and 300K on the original engine!
 
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I just do a 2K OCI because the appropiate manual for each car says 3K, and I try to do that better.

BTW I also have 4 post lifts, so my OCI is a walk in the park.




Then maybe you could do even better by going with 1K changes
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You need professional advice. Please do show us an owner's manual that prescribes 2,000 mile oil change intervals. . .




Let me see if I can find that '66 Rambler manual...I'm almost SURE I read it in there somewhere...
 
I bet greaseball also believes the optimum tire pressure is what's listed in the car's owner's manual....simply because it's listed in the manual.
 
I have a number of really good 10k+ UOAs on my Jeep, but I won't post a link because he won't read them, if he did he would ignore the evidence. These UOAs are right up there with the best on BITOG for this engine on a per mile wear metal basis. Carefully extending OCIs simply does not kill engines. I was also ignorant at one point about oil, 3k die hard changer, but then I discovered BITOG, and with an open mind I set about learning what was the most prudent way to maintain a vehicle.

14 vehicles, 3 NEONS!, a four post lift, one battery, 2k oil changes????? It doesn't add up, incoherent financial strategy, especially for an accountant. Given the expense of registering and insuring vehicles in NY this sounds just plain crazy. How many are registered and insured? I could understand having one neon, but three? Oh I get it, one to drive and two for parts.
 
Sparkman:

I agree with you with one exception: I'd post your data and politely ask him to point out the facts suggesting you should have dumped shorter.

IMO, this sort of troll is like an arsonist -- he likes to start a fire, stand back, and watch everyone get excited. One good way to counter this is to keep him directly in the fire himself and let him feel the heat. This is why I continue to press him, and encourage others to do the same. He knows this very well, which is precisely why he has totally ignored my challenges. Let's keep his feet in the fire so he looks foolish instead of those who are responding to him.

So come on Greaseball, prove to us with some facts the validity of your approach, if you can. Thus far all you've done is repeat silly opinions. Facts please, if you can muster any. . .
 
ohh greaseball, you don't like evidence, do you
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Even where the manufacturer OCI (ie, every modern car) is far greater than your 3000 mile limit.

I'll chime in with a UOA for greaseball on the other halfs Nissan, used primarily for towing horses and currently doing 20,000km OCI's. I have a few 5,000km OCI's there just for comparison. This is one of the few modern vehicles that actually calls for 5,000km/3,000 mile OCI's as the Japanese are ultra conservative with their diesel lube requirements.
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