Why do lawyers always say to refuse a field sobriety tests? What if you dont drink?

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I owned a Bar for 10 years. I got pulled over more than a few times when leaving the bar after hours. After doing a roadside test a few times, the local police would just wave as I drove by. After 10 years, I got to know the night shift sergeants pretty well, and when I sold the place, they were sad to see me go.
So you owned a bar, and after closing up and heading home, you got pulled over for what exactly?

Would seem to make the case for us right there.
 
I don't want to be that guy but - how would the courts know it wasn't DUI unless she shows up with proof ?
 
I don't want to be that guy but - how would the courts know it wasn't DUI unless she shows up with proof ?

She had the doctor's note and stuff. Luckily for her, the township's courthouse wasn't too far away but still an inconvenience having to take off a day off work. Also for a ticket for reckless driving from this too but was also able to get that taken off.

I assume because of how she could have responded to the cop's questions and her crashing the car, would have made it easily look like a drug addict but blood work and other various tests showed her clean - as well as another similar event last NYE when she ended up in the hospital for her first seizure.

Maybe because you are innocent until proven guilty?

The burden of proof is on the state/county/city.

I have no idea what DUI tests the cops did, if they did do any tests. She can't remember much of the incident before the ambulance.
 
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Maybe because you are innocent until proven guilty?

The burden of proof is on the state/county/city.

There are several things at play. Video (including field sobriety tests) can be used as evidence of impairment, especially if one refuses a chemical test or the test comes up less than the legally drunk standard. It might also come into play when it’s for another intoxicant where there’s no legal standard for intoxication, like for THC or most sedatives (even nonprescription antihistamines). I guess that might be one reason why some attorneys warn against agreeing to a field sobriety tests. But sometimes doing well enough will result in “Thank you for cooperating. Have a nice day.” However, most of the time they’re asking for it, they notice signs of impairment already, so it may just be to add more evidence. And the field sobriety tests are really geared towards alcohol even though other intoxicants are trickier to prove intoxication other than poor driving.

The other is that refusing a chemical test when asked universally results in a driver license suspension. Maybe a hearing, but good luck with that. And even then they can get a rapid warrant for a blood test.
 
So you owned a bar, and after closing up and heading home, you got pulled over for what exactly?

Would seem to make the case for us right there.

I was at a brewpub talking to one of the employees. They regularly sample the product during the workday and are even encouraged to do so in order to be able to make recommendations, including when there are variations from one production batch to another.

He said he’d been pulled over as he was leaving work, was asked if he had anything to drink, said yes, and it was “have a nice day”. But this was in Sonoma Country where alcoholic beverages are a huge part of their economy and the sheriff might prioritize people who are obviously wasted rather than wobblers.
 
So you owned a bar, and after closing up and heading home, you got pulled over for what exactly?

Would seem to make the case for us right there.
It was always like I had poor lane control or some other excuse. It can be anything. If the law wants to pull you over they will find a reason. There was another bar owner in our town that had 2 DUIs. We pretty much all knew each other and would joke about the whole situation. There were many bars in the area and lots of DUI arrests.
 
I had a cop suspect i was drunk one time, so they did the whole wave the pen back and forth in front of your eyes test. I don't drink and the cop he brought in to do the test was like he's good. 😂 I have a feeling it was a rookie officer that pulled me over. He asked me all kinds of things he wasn't supposed to ask and they let me off with a warning. He said I didn't use my turn signal (after he turned his lights on) and that I wasn't staying in the center of the lane. Finally decided it was time to fix the front end after that 🤣 I didn't answer any of his questions, but I did politely go along with all his sobriety tests. That was a very strange interaction. They had 3 cop cars just for me and were wondering why I was acting nervous. 😂 my guess is the list of things the rookie did wrong far outweighed anything I did.
A Tennessee state trooper has arrested 8 people for dui and come to find out none were impaired. They're all suing. Not sure how he'll keep his job with so many screw ups.
 
Refuse in Washington State and you automatically lose your license.
He is talking about field testing. I was under the impression that one did not have to submit to any of those in any of the 50 states...that includes the eye test, the dexterity part and the preliminary breath test.
 
I am all for getting drunks off the road. But better tech exists and these type tests should be abandoned. Far too subjective.


Passengers are generally not required to identify at all.


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I had a cop suspect i was drunk one time, so they did the whole wave the pen back and forth in front of your eyes test. I don't drink and the cop he brought in to do the test was like he's good. 😂 I have a feeling it was a rookie officer that pulled me over. He asked me all kinds of things he wasn't supposed to ask and they let me off with a warning. He said I didn't use my turn signal (after he turned his lights on) and that I wasn't staying in the center of the lane. Finally decided it was time to fix the front end after that 🤣 I didn't answer any of his questions, but I did politely go along with all his sobriety tests. That was a very strange interaction. They had 3 cop cars just for me and were wondering why I was acting nervous. 😂 my guess is the list of things the rookie did wrong far outweighed anything I did.
Back when I was 17 years old, I "failed" a field sobriety while sober.
 
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