Originally Posted By: Hannibal
Originally Posted By: ZeeOSix
Originally Posted By: Artem
Originally Posted By: kjd
Thought you'd be interested in a reply I received from an Operations Manager for Microgreen, in response to whether I should use synthetic or petroleum based oil with the Microgreen filter:
To answer your question, SOMS Technologies cannot recommend one oil
(synthetic or conventional) over another. I do know of customers who have
taken their oil well over the recommended 30,000 mile limit & only
changing filters with synthetic. Most of our testing data is based on
conventional oil, but we have used synthetic in a smaller portion of our
lab & road tests. When using synthetic oil and the microGreen filter the
results were just as good, and in many cases, better than the already
excellent data we had collected with conventional oil. As of right now, we
recommend staying with the 30,000 mile guidelines listed on our website.
Unfortunately, we do not have enough synthetic testing to give a
definitive recommendation past that mileage point.
He also stated that there are vehicles that have 70k+ miles on their oil doing only filter changes every 10k, but not enough to make a general recommendation. I have this gentleman's name but thought he might not appreciate me using it here.
Based on this response and certain things posted on their site, I get the impression that they are a company making oil filters that knows absolutely ZILCH, ZERO, NADA about engine oil.
They act like synthetic oil is from another planet and is different in every possible way compared to dino and therefore, requires its own testing, etc. IT'S THE SAME EXACT TYPE OF LUBE!!!!
I've decided to pass on this company until they grow a brain and continue with M1, Amsoil and P1 filters that have been oh so good to me and my engines.
How I read their response is that they don't have enough testing with synthetic oil to recommend OCIs past 30,000 miles when using their filter. That's why they said to stay with the 30,000 OCI even when using synthetic oil to CYA themselves. I don't think I'd be comfortable running past 30K OCI even with synthetic oil and their filter swap recommendations.
Exactly. What Artem failed to recognize is that they're being honest and saying they haven't done the testing to say definitively one way or another. I think that's fair based on the amount of marketing that's believed by a majority of the opinions of this site.
I can promise you that very few of the major oil filter companies truly "know" anything about oil.
Agreed. Testing was done with fleet cars that rarely, if ever, use synthetic oils. Personally, I like the benefits of Amsoil and will continue to use it with the Microgreen filter. Response to concerns about this filter are promptly addressed by clicking on the customer service drop down menu (at microgreenfilter.com)which allows you to contact Microgreen directly. I am no saint, but I do change oil on many cars each year (as well as less frequent atf) and something like this filter would save many trips of hauling fluids to O'Reillys, not to mention helping out the environment. Just my two bits.