Which tire - out of these 3 + any other recommendation.

[z71bill]

I understand the part about wanting good quality tires instead of some really cheap never heard of the company with no reviews.

I picked these three because based on my research they all seem good.

All three have Tire Rack's "Best in category" ranking at

Goodyear 96%
Pirelli 98%
Michelin 100%

Customer reviews follow the same pattern - all three overall get good rankings. For example Dry traction the Michelin 9.5 followed by the Pirelli at 9.4 and the Goodyear at 9.3.

Looking at the Discount Tire data -

Stopping distance wet road when new
Goodyear 155 feet
Pirelli 155 feet
Michelin 171 feet

Stopping distance dry
Goodyear 133 feet
Pirelli 127 feet
Michelin 142 feet

The only data point where the much more expensive Michelin really excels is in wet stopping distance when worn

Goodyear 197 feet
Pirelli 212 feet
Michelin 175 feet

Which is pretty amazing that the Michelin only took 4 more feet to stop when worn VS new. But it still underperformed the Goodyear and Pirelli by 16 feet in wet new stopping distance.

So yes for sure, I am not looking for the cheapest - they are black and round so they are good enough - I want good quality tires. I think all of these meet the standard or I wouldn't be considering them.

 

[trd1zz]

You'd spend ~$1500 installed for tires on your 20 year old Tahoe?

Wild.

Is it being a Tahoe the problem?

Because I'd spend $1500 tomorrow if I needed tires on my 20 year old Land Cruiser.

I guess when you drive a VW you don't really believe there's any life left in a 20 year old vehicle, and you are probably right.

 

[edyvw]

I understand the part about wanting good quality tires instead of some really cheap never heard of the company with no reviews.

I picked these three because based on my research they all seem good.

All three have Tire Rack's "Best in category" ranking at

Goodyear 96%
Pirelli 98%
Michelin 100%

Customer reviews follow the same pattern - all three overall get good rankings. For example Dry traction the Michelin 9.5 followed by the Pirelli at 9.4 and the Goodyear at 9.3.

Looking at the Discount Tire data -

Stopping distance wet road when new
Goodyear 155 feet
Pirelli 155 feet
Michelin 171 feet

Stopping distance dry
Goodyear 133 feet
Pirelli 127 feet
Michelin 142 feet

The only data point where the much more expensive Michelin really excels is in wet stopping distance when worn

Goodyear 197 feet
Pirelli 212 feet
Michelin 175 feet

Which is pretty amazing that the Michelin only took 4 more feet to stop when worn VS new. But it still underperformed the Goodyear and Pirelli by 16 feet in wet new stopping distance.

So yes for sure, I am not looking for the cheapest - they are black and round so they are good enough - I want good quality tires. I think all of these meet the standard or I wouldn't be considering them.

Yes. Michelin is best when it comes to performance retention. There are a lot of tires that are good new, just to turn into junk at 10 or 20k.
Continental TerrainContact H/T would be my choice after Michelin.

 

[RooflessVW]

Is it being a Tahoe the problem?

Because I'd spend $1500 tomorrow if I needed tires on my 20 year old Land Cruiser.

I guess when you drive a VW you don't really believe there's any life left in a 20 year old vehicle, and you are probably right.

It's about use case, isn't it?

I had $1500 in Duratracs on my Trooper but I did use it off-road. If I needed highway tires it would have been more like $500 for 5.

I put Nankangs on my 911 because it was a $14k car and I drove it on normal roads.

 

[edyvw]

Is it being a Tahoe the problem?

Because I'd spend $1500 tomorrow if I needed tires on my 20 year old Land Cruiser.

I guess when you drive a VW you don't really believe there's any life left in a 20 year old vehicle, and you are probably right.

The only thing true there is that on VW you won’t worry whether you will go through the floor due to rust. On Toyota? Oh well…

 

[RooflessVW]

Also, there's plenty of life in my 20 year old, 211k VW...

And the Tiger Paws I have on it are perfectly fine. Should I have spent $1200 on Michelin?

 

[NiwradND]

You'd spend ~$1500 installed for tires on your 20 year old Tahoe?

Wild.

Good tires and shocks are cheap insurance!

 

[Danno]

Imo, choose Goodyear, not even close

 

[trd1zz]

The only thing true there is that on VW you won’t worry whether you will go through the floor due to rust. On Toyota? Oh well…

Easy to check for, and prevent.

 

[trd1zz]

Also, there's plenty of life in my 20 year old, 211k VW...

And the Tiger Paws I have on it are perfectly fine. Should I have spent $1200 on Michelin?

Maybe you should have spent even less and went full blown Chinese tires

 

[edyvw]

Easy to check for, and prevent.

Why would you need to check and prevent?
My 14yrs VW doesn’t need checking for rust. On other hand when I bought 2018 Sequoia the first thing these Toyota boys do is checking rust underneath.

 

[johnmyster]

Would not buy Goodyear workhorse for a vehicle I cared about.

If you're going to cheap out on the Michelins, go Cooper or Bridgestone.

 

[mikeduf]

Michelin is having $80 back on a set of four tires from Costco.

 

[rstcso]

Whatever tire you buy, check the manufacturing dates on the sidewall before installation. It's not unusual for tires to have been in warehouses for extended periods of time.

 

[CarbonToast]

Would not buy Goodyear workhorse for a vehicle I cared about.

If you're going to cheap out on the Michelins, go Cooper or Bridgestone.

Care to explain why?

Becuase the price of the tire is lower is it automatically worse?

 

[johnmyster]

Care to explain why?

Becuase the price of the tire is lower is it automatically worse?

Because of my bad experiences with Goodyears, including their cheaper truckish offerings.

Because of my insight into how they offer lower priced tires...various places in which cheaper materials/methods are substituted.

A higher priced tire isn't automatically better, but tire companies don't build using better materials and methods and then sell it for a loss.

My most recent experience with GY included tread section separation in three out of four tires.

GY experience before that...car would spin the tires on the highway in the wet, in sixth gear. We're talking about a 150 horsepower mazda 3, 2.0 liter engine. Would simultaneously break both front tires loose. In sixth gear. At ~60mph.

 

[jjf729]

Following this as I plan to replace tires on my Suburban before winter. Same size.

Current deals that I know of:

Tire Rack currently has 2022 production Michelin Primacy LTX for $120.85 a tire. Mixed reviews on these but I’m assuming they would be better than anything else for $120.

Walmart has the General Grabber HTS60 for $138.96. If you’re looking for an all terrain, they also have the Laufenn X Fit AT for $138.64 at the moment. Both of those seem to have good reviews.

Discount Tire has a Rocky Mountain HT2 in this size for $108. This has decent reviews and appears to be the same tire as the Milestar Patagonia HT, so it’s probably a decent budget option.

 

[jjf729]

If you want a name brand, Walmart has the Goodyear Wrangler Territory for $143 each. Otherwise, they have tires as cheap as $100 each

Other name-brand tires in the $150 range:
Falken Wildpeak HT02
Cooper Evolution HT2
BF Goordich has the Advantage Sport LT
Yokohama Geolandar AT G31A (has a V speed rating; might be an OE tire on something)

If you can wait for Black Friday/Cyber Monday, you might get better prices.

Falken prices went crazy this year. I was considering Wildpeak HT02s for my Suburban but those are actually $220 per tire now.

 

[RooflessVW]

Maybe you should have spent even less and went full blown Chinese tires

Yes because the only two options are Michelin and Ling Long.

 

[z71bill]

I had the wrong Michelin Discount Tire info. I used the M/S - these are the correct numbers for the M/S2 which is the newer version

Looking at the Discount Tire data -

Stopping distance wet road when new
Goodyear 155 feet
Pirelli 155 feet
Michelin M/S2 168 feet
Michelin M/S 171 feet

Stopping distance dry
Goodyear 133 feet
Pirelli 127 feet
Michelin M/S2 140 feet
Michelin M/S 142 feet

Wet stopping distance when worn
Goodyear 197 feet
Pirelli 212 feet
Michelin M/S2 217 feet
Michelin M/S 175 feet

One other thing - the Goodyear are not really cheap tires - Sam's club has them on sale. I will try and get DT to match Sam's price.

Cost of just the tire no install or tax at DT.
Goodyear $227
Pirelli 155 $254
Michelin M/S2 $300

Sam's has the Goodyear on sale for $162.