Which Lubegard ATF additive?

[unDummy]

Originally Posted By: Cause4Alarm


.dex iii was around over ten years.......so like gm's transmission fluid you should update your knowledge base...... you're handle is funny considering the post


Ditto.

Dexron
DexronII
DexronIIe
DexronIIIF
DexronIIIG and TES295(full synthetic IIIG)
DexronIIIH
DexronV

Dexron has been around for 40+ years, mid 1960's. Should've gave us full synthetic back then. They didn't.

I expect more from all the automakers. Keep taking baby steps.

 

[SHOPete]

Running Valvoline Dex VI and Lubeguard Red in the 01 Aurora. Smooth and crisp at all temps. Couldn't be happier. MaxLife with Red in everything else. Equally satisfied.

 

[Whitewolf]

Originally Posted By: unDummy
Originally Posted By: Cause4Alarm


.dex iii was around over ten years.......so like gm's transmission fluid you should update your knowledge base...... you're handle is funny considering the post


Ditto.

Dexron
DexronII
DexronIIe
DexronIIIF
DexronIIIG and TES295(full synthetic IIIG)
DexronIIIH
DexronV


Well at least you are not taking 'baby steps' since you just came up with a new earlier version! Perhaps with your inside knowledge you might be able to share some of it's performance charicteristics with the rest of us.

 

[unDummy]

Ask Allison!

 

[Whitewolf]

Originally Posted By: unDummy
Ask Allison!


I don't need to since Allison have no right to use the DEXRON trademark and have not had an approval since the introduction of DEXRON-III(H).

 

[Whitewolf]

Goodnight all.

 

[unDummy]

We can go on concerning OE superiority versus everything else for the rest of your life if you want to.

I don't see them as superior. That is it.

BTW, since your a proud GM employee, what does Dexron7 bring?

 

[glum]

Originally Posted By: SHOPete
Running Valvoline Dex VI and Lubeguard Red in the 01 Aurora. Smooth and crisp at all temps. Couldn't be happier. MaxLife with Red in everything else. Equally satisfied.

Why the Lubegard? Was there an issue with running the Valvoline ATFs alone?

 

[Islandvic]

Lubegard is NOT snake oil...

If you are doing a pan drop and filter change, I would go with MaxLife ATF and Lubegard Red.

If doind a full fluid exchange, I would use straight DEX-VI.

Try to find a local industrial lube distributor. I get OEM ACDELCO DEX-VI for under $4/quart. It pays to call around.

I did 5 or 6 drain/refills on a 95 K1500 4l60e at around 170k+ miles (still had original fluid in it) after I did a filter change an added a drain plug. It then added Lubegard Red. It shifted great and I was only using W/M Super Tech ATF!

I sold it to my uncle who uses it to pull his boat and he hasnt had any problem with the trans.

 

[ltslimjim]

^+1.

That is what BITOG is all about. Good experiences and sharing of info. Unless someone is here to sell something, I'm willing to give most people the benefit of the doubt unless red flags go off(I filled my entire transmission/engine with this random _____ additive and my engine now talks to me etc).

So, why can't we have civilized conversation about legit additives?

Good post.

 

[glum]

Originally Posted By: Islandvic
Lubegard is NOT snake oil...

Why? Because your AT didn't melt?

Originally Posted By: Islandvic
If you are doing a pan drop and filter change, I would go with MaxLife ATF and Lubegard Red.

Why? Because it's better than Platinum in some way? Lubegard seems to disagree.

Originally Posted By: Islandvic
I did 5 or 6 drain/refills on a 95 K1500 4l60e at around 170k+ miles (still had original fluid in it) after I did a filter change an added a drain plug. It then added Lubegard Red. It shifted great and I was only using W/M Super Tech ATF!

I sold it to my uncle who uses it to pull his boat and he hasnt had any problem with the trans.

Did you ever run it with just the ATF? How do you know it wouldn't have been fine that way? Maybe the Lubegard was extraneous.

 

[sciphi]

Originally Posted By: glum

Did you ever run it with just the ATF? How do you know it wouldn't have been fine that way? Maybe the Lubegard was extraneous.


I ran Maxlife ATF by itself for 20k miles in my Buick's transmission. Then a bottle of Lubegard Red Bottle was added. A few hundred miles later the shifting went from a hint of roughness to smooth.

Somewhere around here is documented my Buick's history of getting the ATF changed every 20-30k miles. The car has 100k miles on it now.

 

[pbm]

Originally Posted By: sciphi
Originally Posted By: glum

Did you ever run it with just the ATF? How do you know it wouldn't have been fine that way? Maybe the Lubegard was extraneous.


I ran Maxlife ATF by itself for 20k miles in my Buick's transmission. Then a bottle of Lubegard Red Bottle was added. A few hundred miles later the shifting went from a hint of roughness to smooth.

Somewhere around here is documented my Buick's history of getting the ATF changed every 20-30k miles. The car has 100k miles on it now.




The 4T65E in my Buick Century has always shifted flawlessly and now has 126K.
I changed the FF at 36K using 5 qts. of Mobil 1 and 2.5 of WM ST (because I couldn't get more Mobil 1 that day). I changed it again at 96K using all Mobil 1. I added a few extra magnets when I had the pan dropped at 36K as it helps collect ferrous debris. At both ATF changes I added a bottle of LG red.
I had always thought it was the Mobil 1 that kept her shifting so nice but maybe it is the LG. I read once that many ATF rebuilders add LG and I don't think they would knowingly add a 'contaminate' to a unit that was under warranty.
I believe that many ATFs (Dex3, Honda Z1 etc...) are made to a price point and that LG definitely improves them. It works for me.

 

[ponderosaTX]

I recently performed a cooler line flush on my 2003 Mazda MPV to replace my former fill (Dex/Merc augmented by Lubegard Red). I replace the ATF in my MPV every 30K miles. The OE fill in the JATCO JF506E/Mazda 5F31J 5-speed transmission in my MPV was Mazda M-III which reportedly is a Dexron II(E) clone. For the new fill, I used Dexron-VI which is highly recommended on MPV forums. On the basis of numerous recommendations on this forum by Molakule, Whitewolf and others, I did not add Lubegard Red. Immediately after the fluid change, my transmission shifted smoothly but made a whining noise that I vaguely recall hearing from the 3-speed Hydramatic transmission in my father's 1961 Pontiac Bonneville. Since this sound did not strike me as normal for my MPV, I added a bottle of Lubegard Red. The whining sound immediately went away. I now recommend Lubegard Red as an additive for Dexron VI.

 

[ltslimjim]

Wow, that's a good experience there. Thanks for sharing. In reality, at most you are spending about en extra $10-$20 by using LubeGard products every 2 years or so. That is if changing at 30,000 miles.