Where a 7317 won't fit

[Nayov]

I have yet to encounter a single instance in which a 7317 filter won't fit, i.e., because of clearance issues, in place of a 7706.

Are there any applications that require the smaller 7706 due to its size? I suppose the engine could rock in its mounts and possibly hit the frame, but other than that it's baffling why they still make the 6607-sized filter.

Note that I'm not asking because I want a larger capacity filter as yes...there are multiple threads asking such.

To add insult to injury, the 6607 (Fram XG) is a dollar or so more expensive than the 7317 version at you-know-where! Side note: We don't stock 7317s at work. Everything gets a 6607 whether it likes it or not (where a 7317 came off that is, of course).

 

[SubieRubyRoo]

6607 is the Nissan universal filter IIRC.

7317 is the smallest M20x1.5 filter I’d use, as long as the base & gasket sizes are the same.

 

[JohnnyG]

Clearance issues may also include off road use. You wouldn't want the filter to be vulnerable to impact.

 

[Hall]

I don't know the reasons behind it but there must be some circumstances we don't think about. Nissan, for example, uses the 6607 on their VQ V6 engines in cars but in their SUVs, trucks, etc with the same engine, they use a 7317.

 

[Dave Hess]

6607 is the Nissan universal filter IIRC.

7317 is the smallest M20x1.5 filter I’d use, as long as the base & gasket sizes are the same.

I wish there was a longer version of 7317.

 

[jetman]

Other filters with 20mm-1.5 threads that I've used are: NAPA#1334, Wix 51334, Fram XG3593A or PH6010A, Amsoil Ea013,20,21

 

[SubieRubyRoo]

I wish there was a longer version of 7317.

The 3593A has more media, but same length and slightly larger diameter but the gaskets are the same.

But yes, a 4” or 5” version would be nice.

 

[Dave Hess]

Porsche 928 filter is M20x1.5 but has a very high bypass valve rating.

Wix 51285

Part Details

 

[ripcord]

3593A is one size that I keep on hand as it crosses to a bunch of different filters. Lotsa Hondas, and some Nissans.

Oddly, Nissan has used both M20x 1.5 threaded filters and 3/4-16 unf threaded filters so 3593A and 3614 type filters cover most Nissan applications, at least the ones I've worked on. Not positive about late model cars

 

[Hall]

The 3593A

That was the part Fram spec'd for Hondas up until around 2000 or so, I believe. It was "fatter" but yeah, the thread and gasket diameters match.

 

[Brons2]

Porsche 928 filter is M20x1.5 but has a very high bypass valve rating.

Wix 51285

Part Details

Interesting. Doesn't seem to cross reference to much else.

 

[Hall]

Interesting. Doesn't seem to cross reference to much else.

According to Rockauto, it also works on a 911 but only from 1995-1998. Porsche or Euro specialty shops must LOVE that !

 

[Brons2]

It seems like at one time this cross-referenced to a PH6583? The specs look the same as the Wix. https://www.rockauto.com/en/moreinfo.php?pk=56485

But if you try to look this up on Fram.com it is not there, so I think they quit making it. What would be of interest is an Ultra one of these with the old wire backed synthetic media.

 

[ARCOgraphite]

I have yet to encounter a single instance in which a 7317 filter won't fit, i.e., because of clearance issues, in place of a 6607**.

Are there any applications that require the smaller 6607** due to its size? I suppose the engine could rock in its mounts and possibly hit the frame, but other than that it's baffling why they still make the 6607-sized filter.

** edit /correction

I was looking for a bigger filter for my 2014 Rogue Select with the QR25DE engine.
The Nissan Titan and Armada V8 engine spec filter fit without issue, even though the filter was positioned horizontally. jutting out precariously towards the passenger side front wheel/tire assembly.
That crossed to the 7317 size.

Still too, IMO, small for Winter up in the north east, exhibiting cold start oiling issues and torn media on some brands.

_ Ken

 

[Hall]

I was looking for a bigger filter for my 2014 Rogue Select with the QR25DE engine.

Look up a WIX 57510. It has limited cross-references that I see (CARQUEST 84510, LUBER-FINER PH2808, Magneti Marelli 1AMFL00026).

4.8" tall
3.2" diameter
16 psi bypass (Fram 7317 is 9-15, a 6607 is 13)

 

[Rogueman2016s]

Too much overthinking for my simple mind to process whatever is recommended I use if I’m not using OE filters.

 

[hrv]

Too much overthinking for my simple mind to process whatever is recommended I use if I’m not using OE filters.

some are WAY overthinking this....

 

[Hall]

some are WAY overthinking this....

It's the BITOG way

 

[ARCOgraphite]

Too much overthinking for my simple mind to process whatever is recommended I use if I’m not using OE filters.

Not with Nissan OE filters failing due to them cheaping out. I lost a new Note Engine with a improperly designed China sourced Nissan filter, then issues with Grupo Gonher filters on my Rogue Select due to adbv inverting (umbrella)

Nissan China O.E. fibreboard endcaps with diameter slip fit clearance to the canister I.D!
if you don't recall, pressurized lubricant coming from the oil pump must first pass around the base end endcap -

 

[ARCOgraphite]

Here is the @Sayjac write up on a Nissan Grupo Gonher sourced OE. defect -

Nissan 15208-65FOE Adbv Defect

This filter a dealer installed Gonher made oem off a Rogue. It was on ~4700 miles, ~6months. Had a wide pleat at seam pleat, but no tear(s). Biggest issue as topic noted, the adbv. Prior to opening the can I had noticed the Rogue had a start up rattle and very little if any oil came out of inlet...

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