Whats your gear ratio?

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3.73s in the Jeep, turns 1750 at 60mph in 4th (OD). It's great in the hills (pulls 7% grades without downshifting), but would get much better mileage turning closer to 1600 at 60.
 
I cobbled together a saturn SL1 with a "wrong" DOHC transmission that turned 2850 RPM instead of 2300 at 65 MPH. Still got 42 MPG.

I don't believe gear ratios matter for MPG that much, unless one has a strongly nonlinear cam, timing curve, fuel enrichment, etc. With variable valve timing, turbos, and other modern conveniences powerbands should be getting even wider.
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It's not an issue of how wide the powerband is, it's an issue of increased pumping losses when revving higher than needed (with less throttle opening) in a gas engine. It matters a bit less in an unthrottled diesel. Were that Saturn to have the "correct" transmission, you might have seen 45mpg.
 
And it drops dramatically with displacement and number of cylinders. Small 4 bangers have much less pumping loss at any speed or throttle opening than big V8's.

VVT setups minimize this even more.
 
Originally Posted By: 440Magnum
Arrgh, stupid browser. Ignore previous post.

1966 Dodge Polara 2.93 rear gear
1969 Dodge Coronet R/T 3.23 rear gear
1999 Jeep Cherokee 4-sp 4x4 3.23 front (and rear)
2001 Jeep Cherokee 3.55 rear gear
2008 Ram 1500 3.92 rear gear
2005 PT Cruiser who knows, who cares, what does it matter anyway ;-p


Did you change the gearing?

I thought cherokees with the AX-15 had 3.07's front and rear?

My 2000 Cherokee has 3.55s open. I'd love to get a rear LSD.
 
An AX-15 XJ should have 3.07/3.08 gearing. AFAIK, you can't get anything between 3.08 and 3.55 for the front D30 (no 3.23 or 3.42 available).
 
The XJ 3.07 gearing is worthless in Colorado, [censored] epa mileage junk. I had our cherokee re-geared to 4.10 and man what a difference, stays in the powerband so much better.
 
Originally Posted By: subiedriver
The XJ 3.07 gearing is worthless in Colorado, [censored] epa mileage junk. I had our cherokee re-geared to 4.10 and man what a difference, stays in the powerband so much better.


I once drove a friend's XJ that had 31s on the stock 3.07 gears. That wasn't much fun, 5th gear was basically useless.
 
TO: 440Magnum my mpg went up cause it gets the rpm to 1400 rpm at 35 mph cruseing, in top gear. with a 3.55 it wouldnt do that. i know it sounds strange, but it does that. dont for get a 4.1 puts less load on the engine. i dont get on the hiway
 
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