What's the main reason you change your own oil and filter?

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The main reason is that I don't feel I need to pay an automotive tech their wage ... which they earn, no argument there ... to perform such a simple job. Quick Oil Change companies charge equivalent-to-dealer prices (in my city, the dealer is actually the cheapest) and hire minimum or slightly above minimum wage employees. I don't feel that is something I should support. Jobs in the industry for anyone interested in automotive service should lead to Journeyman or equivalent-to-Journeyman status, not McJobs, so there is nothing in that career track I see worth supporting.

The cost is less overall; you can get premium oil and filter for less than the bulk oil at the Quick Change. If you prefer premium oil, you pay more than full retail per quart for it. One thing that is consistent regardless of what it is you are purchasing is that price never equals value. Value can be higher or lower than the price, but they are separate and distinct measures. A Quick Change offers poor value, something I try to avoid no matter what it is I'm buying.

Finally getting at the vehicle and doing a nice visual check other than the Oil / Filter change itself, and doing the other things that a Quick Change wants to up-sell you on, is an excellent way to mitigate any future issues, whether you would take the vehicle to a shop to deal with it or do more advanced work on the vehicle yourself.

It no longer applies in my case, but one of the best things you can do with your mature teen children, male or female, is to teach them to do a proper Oil Change. It will save them grief and remove the mystery and apprehension they may naturally have over vehicle maintenance. You can't teach something you don't know.
 
Cynicism.

(If a job is too much trouble to do properly for yourself, its likely to be FAR too much trouble for anyone else to do it properly for you.)

Plus drain times.

Plus I don't speak Taiwanese.
 
Johnny2Bad's answer was great.

The first paragraph is an award winner. Johnny (may I call you that?) you hit the nail on the head.

I ALWAYS thought the "Quick Change" shop (standard business model) looked like a "brick & mortar corpse on life support". The only variation is the "Quick Change Shop attached to a Car Wash" model. With the latter you get the illusion of activity as the rivulets of sudsy water drain into the gutter. It parallels life somehow.

...but, to answer the question:
1) price in both money, time and material quality control.
2) opportunity for inspection.

WHY DO I FEEL BAD WHEN I DO IT, you ask?
1) I don't ever see the 50 cent synthetic oil or free filters so many of you all have unlimited access to. It makes me feel inadequate.
 
Originally Posted By: dawgn86
my daughter lived in Texas for a year or so and when we moved her in, I bought her 4 oil changes from the Dodge dealer there ( Jeep Cherokee ). I figured they would do it right and it seems they did ok except for the drain plug. When I changed it a few weeks ago, I had to get a small pipe to break loose the drain plug! Makes no sense.


I don't know what year your daughters Cherokee is. Or what engine it has. But mine is a 2015 with a HEMI. The oil pan is synthetic, (read plastic), with a metal insert that contains the drain plug. When I first changed my oil after we bought the vehicle, the first thing I though of, was how easy it would be for some knucklehead to over tighten the drain plug, thereby creating a condition that could crack the pan. Or else spin the insert in it, creating a leak.

I purchased a Gold Plug Oil Drain Plug, along with a bunch of the Aluminum washers. I change the washer every second oil change. And it doesn't require much torque to achieve a good, non leaking seal. I'm just afraid that a monkey at Jiffy Lube would have no trouble creating a disaster with that plastic pan.

https://goldplug.com/
 
Originally Posted By: billt460

I purchased a Gold Plug Oil Drain Plug, along with a bunch of the Aluminum washers. I change the washer every second oil change. And it doesn't require much torque to achieve a good, non leaking seal. I'm just afraid that a monkey at Jiffy Lube would have no trouble creating a disaster with that plastic pan.

https://goldplug.com/


Thank you for the link !
 
My sister did one oil change at Jiffy lube on her Jetta between the last time I changed the oil, and this time when I had to do the transmission fluid and oil (she lives 2.5 hours away).

The transmission plug was stripped (allen head) AND the oil pan was stripped. It looks like they attempted to drain the trans fluid then realized it wasn't the engine oil, stripping both in the process.
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Ohh... and they charged her $100 and used non-VW approved oil.
 
Originally Posted By: PimTac
By changing my own oil, I know exactly what is in the sump and I know that the job was done correctly.

x2, even on my new vehicles with free oil changes, only time my vehicles return to the dealer's for warranty work if needed.
 
It is a 2012 with the Hemi 5.7 V8

manual calls for 20-25 ft lbs of torque to tighten the drain plug. There isnt a drain plug washer.

I like the Gold Plug!



Originally Posted By: billt460
Originally Posted By: dawgn86
my daughter lived in Texas for a year or so and when we moved her in, I bought her 4 oil changes from the Dodge dealer there ( Jeep Cherokee ). I figured they would do it right and it seems they did ok except for the drain plug. When I changed it a few weeks ago, I had to get a small pipe to break loose the drain plug! Makes no sense.


I don't know what year your daughters Cherokee is. Or what engine it has. But mine is a 2015 with a HEMI. The oil pan is synthetic, (read plastic), with a metal insert that contains the drain plug. When I first changed my oil after we bought the vehicle, the first thing I though of, was how easy it would be for some knucklehead to over tighten the drain plug, thereby creating a condition that could crack the pan. Or else spin the insert in it, creating a leak.

I purchased a Gold Plug Oil Drain Plug, along with a bunch of the Aluminum washers. I change the washer every second oil change. And it doesn't require much torque to achieve a good, non leaking seal. I'm just afraid that a monkey at Jiffy Lube would have no trouble creating a disaster with that plastic pan.

https://goldplug.com/
 
Convenience. Doesn't make sense waste half a day taking the car somewhere when it takes me a few minutes.

That and I like to try different stuff in my car.
 
If I was to take my vehicle to town for a change, I would be doing a 50km round trip. That's time and fuel costs. Most places you drop off and pick up a few hours later. So then what do I do? If I need to go to the Dodge dealer, that is a 200km round trip. No thanks.

As outlined earlier, you pay over retail for the oil, regardless of the quality. I have yet to see a decent price.

I have seen on several occasions the oil fill cap still sitting on the engine cowl when doing a vehicle inspection later. I have had a drain bolt damaged on my G8 when I let the dealer touch it. It started leaking oil and the dealer did not believe me when I told them so it cost me a few bucks for a new one.

My shout out to Johnny2bad: Why am I subsidizing an entry level job to pay them what a the dealer or most of these shops charge? The same goes for tips at a restaurant, you should get fair pay for the technical level you work at.

The other week I was greasing (or attempting) the cardan on my Ram. I noticed the front main seal is beginning to leak. I can easily inspect my vehicle when doing the work myself and I save a pile of money doing so.
 
I don't trust that someone will do the job and do it right. You know without stripping my drain plug, leaving the plug loose, not changing the old filter, etc etc etc. So I just do it myself and have never had an issue

Don
 
* Knowing the oil I bought is in the sump.
* Knowing the oil filter I bought was installed.
* Knowing the filter seal is cleaned and properly tightened.
* Knowing the oil drain plug has been cleaned, fresh washer, and properly torqued.
* Knowing the oil drain plug has not been tightened with a jack hammer, stripping the threads.
* Knowing what other items under the hood have or have not been tampered.
* Knowing is better than wondering and helps me sleep at night.
 
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