What type of yard fence is most cost effective?

[JHZR2]

Originally Posted By: eljefino
I'd get a stockade fence... it'll block noise too.


I'd agree chain link is climbable, as well as way ugly. Even if nobody else saw it, I wouldn't want to see it on my lot.

Razor wire is necessary too

 

[Bandito440]

Move somewhere without a HOA. Ron Swanson would not approve of that nonsense.

Once you can tend to your property as you see fit, get 6' chain link with a row of concertina wire.

 

[Donald]

Originally Posted By: sifan
If you have read my other thread on the safety of an underground LP tank, I have no choice but taking the above ground tank option to bypass HOA's approval in order to install a standby generator. My kids are all grown up and they actually never play in the yard due to its small size. I thought about an enclosure around the generator, but I have to leave some space inside the enclosure for propane guy to refill the tanks and the installer to maintain the generator. Will such a enclosure still need HOA's approval? I try to keep people out from messing the wires and propane tubes whether the generator is running or not. If I kept people from seeing the generator when it was running, people would be more curious of the source of noise. With an enclosure I will have to deal with removing deep snow to outside.


You do not have to have young kids to build a kids play fort around it. You could be creative and have sides that open up wide for work to be done.

 

[sifan]

I get it. That is a very interesting idea, but both generator and LP tanks sit right next to my townhouse (an end unit). Wouldn't a kids play fort look kind of out of place in that location? If they were in the middle of a yard, I would jump right into this idea.

 

[bepperb]

To be blunt, if you live in a townhome that means' your neighbors are just a few feet away? Yeah, chainlink fence and razor wire isn't going to fly. Not with the HOA, but even without that not with the other people in your building.

If it were me I'd buy a vinyl storage shed and have the tanks in there. Of course if this was really me I'd question why I needed a standby generator in Maryland in what must be an urban or suburban area.

Really, why not just save 2 grand on the generator and another 2 grand on the fence and just move somewhere with less crime and more reliable electricity?

And why is a few thousand on a generator and probably another couple on a fence in the budget and a 400 dollar 4 channel DVR security system isn't?

 

[sifan]

I offered my shed to store the tanks. According to the installer the Fire Marshall wanted to cut it open for ventilation while the propane guy wanted a more convenient way to refill the tank. So, at the end both tanks sit side by side right outside the shed.

Please read especially my last response of this thread: http://www.bobistheoilguy.com/forums/ubb...pro#Post3226031

I have pondered for a long time over all the alternatives and decided to take the most convenient (not just to me but also for my wife) and safest thought the most expensive solution which is a LP driven whole house standby generator. You never know if you will be home at the critical moment to pull out your portable generator to prevent basement flood by powering up the sump pump. My basement has been flooded once and it is something I do not want to go through again. If I were not around, my wife would not be mechanically inclined like most women to know how to set up a generator not to mention in the middle of a blizzard. How many time do you have to refill your gasoline generator if it were running 24 hours a day? How much gasoline do you have to keep in stock and where are you going to store it? I do not know what kind of house you are living. If you had a garage, surely it would be easy for you to store your generator in there. I have no such a luxury.

Moving to another place with stable electricity supply. Gee, that is easy to say than done. Actually my neighborhood is in one of the best public school districts in the Montgomery County, Maryland. Compared to moving the cost of a standby generator is way cheaper. Most my neighbors drive luxury cars in this affluent neighborhood (I drive a 10 years old Toyota Echo), but none of them I know that own standby generators around here not even portable generators. During power outages in the past my neighborhood were so quiet. Now they will hear the sound of my generator humming while they cuddle in the cold.

 

[andrewg]

Originally Posted By: sifan
I offered my shed to store the tanks. According to the installer the Fire Marshall wanted to cut it open for ventilation while the propane guy wanted a more convenient way to refill the tank. So, at the end both tanks sit side by side right outside the shed.

Please read especially my last response of this thread: http://www.bobistheoilguy.com/forums/ubb...pro#Post3226031

I have pondered for a long time over all the alternatives and decided to take the most convenient (not just to me but also for my wife) and safest thought the most expensive solution which is a LP driven whole house standby generator. You never know if you will be home at the critical moment to pull out your portable generator to prevent basement flood by powering up the sump pump. If I were not around, my wife would not be mechanically inclined like most women to know how to set up a generator not to mention in the middle of a blizzard. How many time do you have to refill your gasoline generator if it were running 24 hours a day? How much gasoline do you have to keep in stock and where are you going to store it? I do not know what kind of house you are living. If you had a garage, surely it would be easy for you to store your generator in there. I have no such a luxury.

Moving to another place with stable electricity supply. Gee, that is easy to say than done. Compared to moving the cost of a standby generator is way cheaper. Most my neighbors drive luxury cars in this affluent neighborhood (I drive a 10 years old Toyota Echo), but none of them I know that own standby generators around here not even portable generators. During power outages in the past my neighborhood were so quiet. Now they will hear the sound of my generator humming while they cuddle in the cold.

If you live in affluent community....in the event of a power outage for any length of time, those neighbors will be checked into a nice establishment that does have power.
Always a good feeling to be prepared in your case. Even if costs are rather high getting set up, nothing really beats the comfort of not worrying about what may come your way.

 

[bepperb]

I'm afraid my point is lost on you. I'm not saying to move simply for more reliable electricity. From this thread alone it doesn't seem you enjoy the neighborhood. You seem to hold your neighbors in contempt. Why live like that? 4 grand on a generator is 4 grand that might be better spent living somewhere you enjoy.

 

[sifan]

I put my three children's education as the top most priority in my life. Life is neither perfect nor fair. I complain while preparing for the worst. Living is not just for myself but for others, too.

 

[Ausfahrt]

Razor wire, electrified, thorny plants and Concertina?

I had to Google concertina wire and the result begs the question: What kind of neighborhoods do you guys live in? I would just move.

Good luck.

 

[Donald]

My GF cannot seem to understand why I like to live in the country. I cannot see any neighbor yet I am 30 from Albany and 30 minutes from work. No HOA. While I lock my house its mainly to keep out my psycho ex.

At first light my dogs want to go out. I open the door and let them out and go to sleep for another hour or two. They roam around and then go to sleep on my front porch. Or garage.

Many people from NYC come up here on weekends. Some have weekend houses, some stay at a B&B. I live here all year long.

 

[GreeCguy]

bougainvillea in a fence

 

[GreeCguy]

bougainvillea thorns - they're hooked like a fish hook and do a great job snagging clothing and skin and they're not easy to get away from. The really cool things about these plants is that they grow like weeds - in fact, the more you neglect them the better they grow. It's like they're angry and want to strike back because you ignored them.

 

[GreeCguy]

Originally Posted By: Donald
My GF cannot seem to understand why I like to live in the country. I cannot see any neighbor yet I am 30 from Albany and 30 minutes from work. No HOA. While I lock my house its mainly to keep out my psycho ex.

At first light my dogs want to go out. I open the door and let them out and go to sleep for another hour or two. They roam around and then go to sleep on my front porch. Or garage.

Many people from NYC come up here on weekends. Some have weekend houses, some stay at a B&B. I live here all year long.


Sounds like heaven - but it's just so cottin' pickin' cold to an ole Florida cracker like me.

 

[Cujet]

I'll say it again. Barbed Wire is the only thing that worked.

I had trouble with trespassers, thieves, criminals, and good-ol-boys too, for years. Each one of them had one thing in common. They felt entitled to come on to my property.

Barbed wire on top of the fence does discourage the average joe. It also lends an air of "seriousness" to the situation.

Top it off with an electric fence. They really work too.

 

[strat81]

Electric cattle fence should deter vandals.

But really, razor wire attracts attention. Try to build it as nondescript as possible. Maybe build it large enough to put trash bins in there so that would be the first thing someone sees if they open it.

Don't forget provisions for adequate airflow.