I keep seeing people talk about it. What is it?
What is an E-Core?
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If you have seen the posted pictures of various brands of spin-on filters with a plastic cage supporting the filter material instead of metal, that is an E-Core. Its made by Champ Labs.
we had something similar on an old 52 dodge truck
http://www.champlabs.com/content/oil-filters
They have been around about 6 years and have mostly done well. Recently one member here has reported problems. The fans of other brands are trying to panic people into abandoning them mostly due to one bad report. Oh yes, there is the other one where somebody blocked off the bypass on a Chevy and had a problem several years ago. Like anything new and different, many reject them.
The only lower priced filters with a thread end bypass are the Champ made Ecores and Motorcraft. The Motorcrafts are made by Purolator, but Ford insists on a thread end bypass. GM puts the bypass in the engine to eliminate dome end bypasses.
They have been around about 6 years and have mostly done well. Recently one member here has reported problems. The fans of other brands are trying to panic people into abandoning them mostly due to one bad report. Oh yes, there is the other one where somebody blocked off the bypass on a Chevy and had a problem several years ago. Like anything new and different, many reject them.
The only lower priced filters with a thread end bypass are the Champ made Ecores and Motorcraft. The Motorcrafts are made by Purolator, but Ford insists on a thread end bypass. GM puts the bypass in the engine to eliminate dome end bypasses.
Not sure why they are called e-cores, as a metal core will rust away in a landfill, or can be recycled easy. The plastc core will be around for several hundred years...
Probably because they use less material to make or something like that.
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Also now known as the "BCOD" or Blue Can Of Death 
Seriously, I've never had a problem with Champ Labs, I use Delco PF48's all the time (old style) but they literally went out of their way to make a filter with WORSE construction then Fram Extra/Tough guards.
Seriously, I've never had a problem with Champ Labs, I use Delco PF48's all the time (old style) but they literally went out of their way to make a filter with WORSE construction then Fram Extra/Tough guards.
Originally Posted By: SuperBusa
Originally Posted By: hardcore302
What is it?
Something to stay away from ...
for sure..
escrap
Originally Posted By: hardcore302
What is it?
Something to stay away from ...
Originally Posted By: Hitzy
Also now known as the "BCOD" or Blue Can Of Death
Seriously, I've never had a problem with Champ Labs, I use Delco PF48's all the time (old style)
Same here. I recently found the old style AC Delco PF48's with the metal core at Walmart and bought them all.
Also now known as the "BCOD" or Blue Can Of Death
Seriously, I've never had a problem with Champ Labs, I use Delco PF48's all the time (old style)
Same here. I recently found the old style AC Delco PF48's with the metal core at Walmart and bought them all.
If you avoid every filter that has ever had a failure, you won't have anything to use.
Originally Posted By: labman
If you avoid every filter that has ever had a failure, you won't have anything to use.
Yeah seriously.
One E-core failure shouldn't mean that all E-cores are created equally.
I'd run an E-core anyday for a normal OCI.
If you avoid every filter that has ever had a failure, you won't have anything to use.
Yeah seriously.
One E-core failure shouldn't mean that all E-cores are created equally.
I'd run an E-core anyday for a normal OCI.
Originally Posted By: Hitzy
Also now known as the "BCOD" or Blue Can Of Death
Seriously, I've never had a problem with Champ Labs, I use Delco PF48's all the time (old style) but they literally went out of their way to make a filter with WORSE construction then Fram Extra/Tough guards.
Last I checked they were black, they havent been blue for many many years.
I have used ecores since they have been out and have cut most of them open. I wish I had joined this forum in the past to post them all. I post every filter I cut open on this board. I actually have a ST16 ecore I am about to post.
Never one problem, EVERY filter brand will have a flaw every now and then. Even the godly purolator.
Also now known as the "BCOD" or Blue Can Of Death
Seriously, I've never had a problem with Champ Labs, I use Delco PF48's all the time (old style) but they literally went out of their way to make a filter with WORSE construction then Fram Extra/Tough guards.
Last I checked they were black, they havent been blue for many many years.
I have used ecores since they have been out and have cut most of them open. I wish I had joined this forum in the past to post them all. I post every filter I cut open on this board. I actually have a ST16 ecore I am about to post.
Never one problem, EVERY filter brand will have a flaw every now and then. Even the godly purolator.
Originally Posted By: labman
If you avoid every filter that has ever had a failure, you won't have anything to use.
The problem with escraps are when they have a failure your engine gets a media lunch,others with a real center core protects from that,and the "others" failure isn't engine threatening.
If you avoid every filter that has ever had a failure, you won't have anything to use.
The problem with escraps are when they have a failure your engine gets a media lunch,others with a real center core protects from that,and the "others" failure isn't engine threatening.
Originally Posted By: labman
If you avoid every filter that has ever had a failure, you won't have anything to use.
True, but none of us has access to the actual failure rates of various filters, nor the quality control parameters of said filters, so we are forced to make decisions based on perceived quality vs cost.
I perceive that there are low cost filters of high quality (readily available in the marketplace), so I decide not to buy low cost filters that I believe are low quality, nor do I recommend low cost filters that I believe are low quality.
If you avoid every filter that has ever had a failure, you won't have anything to use.
True, but none of us has access to the actual failure rates of various filters, nor the quality control parameters of said filters, so we are forced to make decisions based on perceived quality vs cost.
I perceive that there are low cost filters of high quality (readily available in the marketplace), so I decide not to buy low cost filters that I believe are low quality, nor do I recommend low cost filters that I believe are low quality.
Originally Posted By: defektes
Originally Posted By: Hitzy
Also now known as the "BCOD" or Blue Can Of Death
Seriously, I've never had a problem with Champ Labs, I use Delco PF48's all the time (old style) but they literally went out of their way to make a filter with WORSE construction then Fram Extra/Tough guards.
Last I checked they were black, they havent been blue for many many years.
I have used ecores since they have been out and have cut most of them open. I wish I had joined this forum in the past to post them all. I post every filter I cut open on this board. I actually have a ST16 ecore I am about to post.
Never one problem, EVERY filter brand will have a flaw every now and then. Even the godly purolator.
Supertechs are black....Champs are blue. Still the same acronym Call it the "Black Can Of Death" if you like....
Enjoy this thread
https://bobistheoilguy.com/forums/threads/2-x-e-core-shocker-20k-fram-p-classic-pics.126890/
Originally Posted By: Hitzy
Also now known as the "BCOD" or Blue Can Of Death
Seriously, I've never had a problem with Champ Labs, I use Delco PF48's all the time (old style) but they literally went out of their way to make a filter with WORSE construction then Fram Extra/Tough guards.
Last I checked they were black, they havent been blue for many many years.
I have used ecores since they have been out and have cut most of them open. I wish I had joined this forum in the past to post them all. I post every filter I cut open on this board. I actually have a ST16 ecore I am about to post.
Never one problem, EVERY filter brand will have a flaw every now and then. Even the godly purolator.
Supertechs are black....Champs are blue. Still the same acronym
Call it the "Black Can Of Death" if you like....Enjoy this thread
https://bobistheoilguy.com/forums/threads/2-x-e-core-shocker-20k-fram-p-classic-pics.126890/
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I think I'll stick with MC
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